Meeting Minutes for 11 June 2006

Jun 11 21:02:56 *    Sonar_Gal now calls this meeting to order.
Jun 11 21:03:35 Sonar_Gal    meeting guidelines for anyone who needs them - http://fedoraunity.org/meeting-information/fedora-unity-project-meeting-guidelines
Jun 11 21:03:58 Sonar_Gal    Tasklisk http://fedoraunity.org/meeting-information/task-list/
Jun 11 21:04:47 Sonar_Gal    Bob where did we want to start the meeting tonight?
Jun 11 21:05:10 *    Sonar_Gal gives tht floor to Bob-Laptop, BobJensen, EvilBob, StillBob or whoever bob is at this moment.
Jun 11 21:05:18 BobJensen-Away    I dunno, let me look
Jun 11 21:05:38 Sonar_Gal    ok
Jun 11 21:05:45 *    ChanServ gives channel operator status to Sonar_Gal
Jun 11 21:06:18 *    BobJensen-Away is now known as BobJensen
Jun 11 21:06:24 BobJensen    start at the top
Jun 11 21:06:29 Sonar_Gal    ok
Jun 11 21:06:47 Sonar_Gal    1 # We need to Start thinking about what is going to happen at each Re-Spin Release as to what happens to the old ISOs.  When do we cut the Feed?  Can our seeders handle more than one ISO? Should more than one release be seeded?
Jun 11 21:06:47 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-JUN-11
Jun 11 21:06:47 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Re-Spin Team
Jun 11 21:06:47 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES:
Jun 11 21:07:56 *    daMaestro wanders in
Jun 11 21:08:00 Southern_Gentlem    !
Jun 11 21:08:05 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Southern_Gentlem
Jun 11 21:08:38 Southern_Gentlem    if the images past testing i really dont see the need to seed more than one
Jun 11 21:08:52 Sonar_Guy    +1
Jun 11 21:09:02 daMaestro    +1
Jun 11 21:09:06 Southern_Gentlem    but i like for us to keep current -1 o server
Jun 11 21:09:17 Southern_Gentlem    the
Jun 11 21:09:19 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Jun 11 21:09:22 Sonar_Guy    +1\
Jun 11 21:09:28 Southern_Gentlem    !
Jun 11 21:09:33 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Southern_Gentlem
Jun 11 21:09:53 Southern_Gentlem    dont need to serve it but its there in case we do
Jun 11 21:09:55 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Jun 11 21:10:03 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 21:10:18 Corwyn    !
Jun 11 21:10:21 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 21:10:39 daMaestro    unless someone takes the torrent and rolls a new one.. when we stop tracking it.. the torrent should die eof
Jun 11 21:10:48 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Corwyn
Jun 11 21:11:23 Corwyn    what about those that are presently downloading it at the time, we shouldn't kill those from downloading it until it finishes
Jun 11 21:11:25 Corwyn    eof
Jun 11 21:11:44 Sonar_Guy    !
Jun 11 21:11:53 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Sonar_Guy
Jun 11 21:12:40 Sonar_Guy    I say 24 hours prior to the new release we remove the torrent from the site, that will allow anyone downloading to finish but no new to start downloading.
Jun 11 21:12:42 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Jun 11 21:12:55 Southern_Gentlem    !
Jun 11 21:13:01 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Southern_Gentlem
Jun 11 21:13:09 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 21:13:36 Southern_Gentlem    and the way the torrents are going at this point in 2 weeks i dont think that will be a problem
Jun 11 21:13:39 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Jun 11 21:13:44 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 21:14:42 daMaestro    the start of download is controlled by the access to the .torrent file... if we disable public access to the .torrent and keep the tracker tracking.. this will enabled currently downloading users to finish.. then after they are done.. we would remove the torrent from the tracker.
Jun 11 21:14:44 daMaestro    eof
Jun 11 21:14:56 Sonar_Guy    !
Jun 11 21:14:57 Sonar_Gal    +1
Jun 11 21:15:02 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Sonar_Guy
Jun 11 21:15:03 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Jun 11 21:15:04 Corwyn    +1
Jun 11 21:15:20 Sonar_Guy    That is what I meant, not to remove it but stop from allowing new downloads to start.
Jun 11 21:15:21 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Jun 11 21:15:38 *    BobJensen was AFK
Jun 11 21:15:48 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 21:15:50 Sonar_Gal    catch up
Jun 11 21:15:54 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 21:16:29 daMaestro    we should allow the download of the PXE images and the boot.iso for a longer period of time.. maybe even indefinately
Jun 11 21:16:30 daMaestro    eof
Jun 11 21:16:51 Sonar_Guy    !
Jun 11 21:16:57 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Sonar_Guy
Jun 11 21:17:16 Sonar_Guy    That fine we move them to a public archive directory and note it.
Jun 11 21:17:18 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Jun 11 21:17:23 BobJensen    !
Jun 11 21:17:25 daMaestro    +1
Jun 11 21:17:29 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to BobJensen
Jun 11 21:17:42 BobJensen    Sofar I agree with everything
Jun 11 21:17:50 BobJensen    EOF
Jun 11 21:18:03 Southern_Gentlem    !
Jun 11 21:18:17 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Southern_Gentlem
Jun 11 21:18:47 Southern_Gentlem    doesnt the boot.iso need to be the same kernel as the iso?
Jun 11 21:18:50 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 21:18:54 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Jun 11 21:19:11 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 21:19:19 daMaestro    yes.. they would need to be from the iso that is in use... and yes.. the files would also be on the DVD image..
Jun 11 21:19:34 Southern_Gentlem    !
Jun 11 21:19:39 daMaestro    however, as a service to those who have downloaded.. I would personally like to continue to host them
Jun 11 21:19:47 BobJensen    +1
Jun 11 21:19:50 daMaestro    oef
Jun 11 21:19:53 daMaestro    eof
Jun 11 21:19:58 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Southern_Gentlem
Jun 11 21:20:26 Southern_Gentlem    so the files as is, cannot be used indefinitely
Jun 11 21:20:33 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 21:20:47 Southern_Gentlem    i have heard rumors of a new kernel soon  eof
Jun 11 21:21:09 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 21:21:26 daMaestro    no, they will have to be used with the related ISO image for doing installs. so the PXE/boot.iso images from 20060523 will only work with the 20060523 DVD
Jun 11 21:21:44 Southern_Gentlem    !
Jun 11 21:22:12 daMaestro    we either should host the images for a longer period of time.. or make it very clear that the images are on the DVD image and you need to use the images from the related DVD data
Jun 11 21:22:16 Southern_Gentlem    daMaestro, eof??
Jun 11 21:22:24 daMaestro    we might want to do the latter either way; eof
Jun 11 21:22:28 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Southern_Gentlem
Jun 11 21:23:06 Southern_Gentlem    i think we are all in agreement and we have beat this horse for 15 minutes lets move on
Jun 11 21:23:36 BobJensen    !
Jun 11 21:23:49 Corwyn    Southern_Gentlem: +1
Jun 11 21:23:53 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to BobJensen
Jun 11 21:24:20 BobJensen    How about this we will host the related images for two Re-Spin releases byond the life of any given re-spin release
Jun 11 21:24:28 BobJensen    EOF
Jun 11 21:24:31 daMaestro    +1
Jun 11 21:24:44 Questor    ?
Jun 11 21:24:48 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 21:24:55 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Questor
Jun 11 21:25:01 Sonar_Guy    !!
Jun 11 21:25:30 Questor    Disk space is not a problem for hosting two re-spin releases + a current Re-Spin?
Jun 11 21:25:32 Questor    EOF
Jun 11 21:25:39 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 21:25:49 daMaestro    I will also add this much needed info into the howto on setting up a local install server using the ISO image (such as you need the PXE and boot.iso images from the image you are using.. we will host them for a limited period of time.. etc) eof
Jun 11 21:25:51 BobJensen    !
Jun 11 21:26:08 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Sonar_Guy
Jun 11 21:27:06 Sonar_Guy    Motions that we spend no mor than 5 minutes on each Item, unless you have a vaild point please keep quiet so we can get as many tasks covered as possible, there are 18 task at 5 minutes each it will take 90 minutes to cover the items!
Jun 11 21:27:07 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Jun 11 21:27:13 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to BobJensen
Jun 11 21:27:33 Corwyn    +1
Jun 11 21:27:49 BobJensen    Disk is not an issue
Jun 11 21:28:40 *    Southern_Gentlem move on
Jun 11 21:29:13 *    Corwyn hands BobJensen an eof incase he lost his
Jun 11 21:29:55 BobJensen    yeah eof
Jun 11 21:30:03 Sonar_Gal    # Start working on submissions to google and company for all sites in the Fedora Unity Domain. Need to create a list of the top 10 search engines determined by the Fedora Unity Project Key leaders.
Jun 11 21:30:03 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-JUL-01
Jun 11 21:30:03 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Bob Jensen
Jun 11 21:30:03 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES:
Jun 11 21:30:04 *    CRASH69_ (n=CRASH@201.200.94.66) has joined #fedora-unity
Jun 11 21:30:11 Southern_Gentlem    !
Jun 11 21:30:19 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Southern_Gentlem
Jun 11 21:30:36 Southern_Gentlem    google is already crawling our sites
Jun 11 21:30:39 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Jun 11 21:30:43 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 21:30:47 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 21:31:02 daMaestro    yes and i think plone fully supports google sitemaps... so we need to double check the rewrites are correct EOF
Jun 11 21:31:11 BobJensen    !
Jun 11 21:31:17 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to BobJensen
Jun 11 21:31:19 Sonar_Guy    !
Jun 11 21:31:31 BobJensen    Something are not perfect for the google sitemaps program but I think we can work around it
Jun 11 21:31:39 BobJensen    EOF
Jun 11 21:31:42 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Sonar_Guy
Jun 11 21:31:56 Southern_Gentlem    !
Jun 11 21:31:56 Sonar_Guy    Only Issue I saw was with fedorasearch.org, something about a missing database entry. EOF
Jun 11 21:32:08 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Southern_Gentlem
Jun 11 21:32:12 Southern_Gentlem    http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:wBzGX4-Lbh0J:fedoraunity.org/+&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a
Jun 11 21:32:15 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Jun 11 21:32:21 BobJensen    ?
Jun 11 21:32:41 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to BobJensen
Jun 11 21:32:42 BobJensen    What is the link for? can we get a description?
Jun 11 21:32:45 BobJensen    EOF
Jun 11 21:32:50 Corwyn    !
Jun 11 21:32:56 Southern_Gentlem    !
Jun 11 21:33:09 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Corwyn
Jun 11 21:33:10 Corwyn    it's google cache, that was quick too.
Jun 11 21:33:12 Corwyn    eof
Jun 11 21:33:18 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Southern_Gentlem
Jun 11 21:33:20 Southern_Gentlem    -!
Jun 11 21:33:23 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Jun 11 21:33:34 *    Corwyn hands Southern_Gentlem an X
Jun 11 21:33:45 Southern_Gentlem    !
Jun 11 21:33:54 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Southern_Gentlem
Jun 11 21:34:34 Southern_Gentlem    i really think this is a nonissue at this point, if googe has us the others will soon follow
Jun 11 21:34:39 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Jun 11 21:34:43 Corwyn    !
Jun 11 21:34:53 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Corwyn
Jun 11 21:35:51 Corwyn    from my experience with my site, which I never promoted, I get about 15 crawlers from many search engine crawlers, started with google and went from there
Jun 11 21:35:58 Corwyn    eof
Jun 11 21:36:12 Questor    ?
Jun 11 21:36:18 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Questor
Jun 11 21:37:14 Questor    Question for Bob & all:  Would it still help to submit information to search engines anyway?  & is there any cost (but time and effort) to doing so?
Jun 11 21:37:21 Questor    EOF
Jun 11 21:37:25 Corwyn    !
Jun 11 21:37:30 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Corwyn
Jun 11 21:37:38 Corwyn    it's already there as the link about proves
Jun 11 21:37:39 Corwyn    eof
Jun 11 21:38:14 Sonar_Gal    next task
Jun 11 21:38:18 Sonar_Gal    # Discuss adding a README to the ISO Directory that inclues Fedora Unity HOW-TOs on running SHA1SUM from Windows/Linux and Burning an ISO Image from both Windows/Linux. Both of these HOW-TOs also need to be added to FedoraSolved.Org
Jun 11 21:38:18 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-AUG-01
Jun 11 21:38:18 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Bob Jensen
Jun 11 21:38:18 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES:
Jun 11 21:38:19 Corwyn    +1
Jun 11 21:38:25 *    Southern_Gentlem makes motion to drop this
Jun 11 21:38:30 Southern_Gentlem    opps
Jun 11 21:38:31 StillBob    !
Jun 11 21:38:38 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to StillBob
Jun 11 21:38:53 StillBob    Well we will not be dropping this
Jun 11 21:38:55 Southern_Gentlem    #task 2
Jun 11 21:39:30 StillBob    I am working on adding some info tot he existing Doc that is part of FDP that we can use under the OPL
Jun 11 21:39:52 StillBob    should be a non-issue to have this ready for the next release
Jun 11 21:39:56 StillBob    EOF
Jun 11 21:40:16 Corwyn    !!!
Jun 11 21:40:23 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Corwyn
Jun 11 21:40:46 Corwyn    I believe Southern_Gentlem wishes to make a motion regarding task #2, I move to allow it eof
Jun 11 21:40:49 StillBob    !
Jun 11 21:40:54 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 21:41:00 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to StillBob
Jun 11 21:41:02 StillBob    I disargee
Jun 11 21:41:18 Southern_Gentlem    too late
Jun 11 21:41:23 StillBob    the task is assigned to me and is something I am working on, I would like to finish it
Jun 11 21:41:32 StillBob    To bad
Jun 11 21:41:35 StillBob    EOF
Jun 11 21:41:40 Corwyn    withdraw motion
Jun 11 21:41:44 Southern_Gentlem    i was agreeing with you
Jun 11 21:41:44 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 21:41:45 daMaestro    if all that there is to do is fill out a form saying.. here are our urls.. i would like someone to do it.. there are programs that automate this. eof
Jun 11 21:42:18 *    daMaestro next?
Jun 11 21:42:21 Sonar_Guy    StillBob: +1
Jun 11 21:42:29 Sonar_Guy    daMaestro: +1
Jun 11 21:42:33 Sonar_Guy    Southern_Gentlem: +1
Jun 11 21:42:42 *    Sonar_Guy thinks NEXT.
Jun 11 21:42:42 Questor    StillBob, daMaestro:  +1
Jun 11 21:42:45 Sonar_Gal    # Discuss the option to list FedoraSearch.Org on 20 Major Search Engines via ListingCorp.com.
Jun 11 21:42:45 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-JUL-01
Jun 11 21:42:45 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Andrea Glaser
Jun 11 21:42:45 Sonar_Gal              * NOTES: Tabled for 60 Days pending Item 1.
Jun 11 21:43:06 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 21:43:14 StillBob    !
Jun 11 21:43:28 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 21:44:03 daMaestro    i made some changes to the search system and seem to have it running better and the rank is running better... but the system needs more work before we spend any money on it (unless someone want to really pay for it)
Jun 11 21:44:28 Sonar_Guy    !
Jun 11 21:44:32 daMaestro    it is making improvments.. but might not be ready for money to be spent on it; oef
Jun 11 21:44:36 daMaestro    eof*
Jun 11 21:44:39 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to StillBob
Jun 11 21:44:41 StillBob    We need to start using task titles rather than pointing at task numbers that change
Jun 11 21:44:51 StillBob    This is an example of that
Jun 11 21:44:54 StillBob    EOF
Jun 11 21:45:20 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Jun 11 21:45:27 Corwyn    +1
Jun 11 21:45:28 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Sonar_Guy
Jun 11 21:45:36 Sonar_Guy    eof
Jun 11 21:46:15 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 21:46:40 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 21:46:56 daMaestro    i think we could do it for free for the time being (contact all the offical sites and the sites we index and ask for them to list us as a search engine for their site [goes along with allowing them to limit searches to just their site])
Jun 11 21:47:00 daMaestro    eof
Jun 11 21:47:33 StillBob    !
Jun 11 21:47:38 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to StillBob
Jun 11 21:47:46 StillBob    the next item on our list is a push
Jun 11 21:47:54 StillBob    What is after that?
Jun 11 21:47:55 StillBob    EOF
Jun 11 21:48:00 Sonar_Gal    # Discuss the translating of the various Fedora Unity sites to other Languages.
Jun 11 21:48:00 Sonar_Gal        *  DATE DUE: 2006-JUN-11
Jun 11 21:48:00 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Translation Team
Jun 11 21:48:00 Sonar_Gal              * NOTES: Can we do this and would be be worth while, Do we have the manpower?
Jun 11 21:48:19 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 21:48:21 StillBob    !
Jun 11 21:48:23 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 21:48:33 daMaestro    plone has some sort of translation service.. we might be able to use it; EOF
Jun 11 21:48:41 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to StillBob
Jun 11 21:48:43 StillBob    This will take more time we need ot push this til July for more research
Jun 11 21:48:59 StillBob    No need ot waste time tonight on what we don't know
Jun 11 21:49:02 StillBob    EOF
Jun 11 21:49:06 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Jun 11 21:49:14 Sonar_Gal    +1
Jun 11 21:49:20 Sonar_Gal    # Poll current contributors as to where they see themselves in the Unity Project now (what thier duties are) and what they want to learn and do in addition.
Jun 11 21:49:20 Sonar_Gal        *  DATE DUE: 2006-JUL-01
Jun 11 21:49:20 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: All Unity Members
Jun 11 21:49:20 Sonar_Gal              * NOTES:
Jun 11 21:49:25 Questor    +1
Jun 11 21:49:35 StillBob    !
Jun 11 21:49:40 Corwyn    StillBob: +1
Jun 11 21:49:46 StillBob    can we talk about this after FFF?
Jun 11 21:49:50 StillBob    Ooops
Jun 11 21:49:51 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to StillBob
Jun 11 21:49:53 StillBob    can we talk about this after FFF?
Jun 11 21:50:01 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Jun 11 21:50:08 StillBob    I think we need some time to get our structure ready
Jun 11 21:50:09 Sonar_Gal    +1
Jun 11 21:50:16 StillBob    the couple weeks will help
Jun 11 21:50:20 StillBob    EOF
Jun 11 21:50:23 Corwyn    ?
Jun 11 21:50:47 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Corwyn
Jun 11 21:50:55 Southern_Gentlem    !
Jun 11 21:51:03 Corwyn    what structure?
Jun 11 21:51:05 Corwyn    eof
Jun 11 21:51:10 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Southern_Gentlem
Jun 11 21:51:46 Sonar_Guy    !!
Jun 11 21:52:10 Southern_Gentlem    why not use t listserv that daMaestro  has gotten in place and start a list for each group and let people join the groups they want so we can see how we stand on manpower
Jun 11 21:52:13 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Jun 11 21:52:16 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Sonar_Guy
Jun 11 21:52:20 Sonar_Guy    Motions that we end the meeting on this task and pick up with the next task at the next meeting!
Jun 11 21:52:21 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Jun 11 21:52:59 Sonar_Gal    +1
Jun 11 21:53:31 Southern_Gentlem    we still have 5 minutes to discuss this
Jun 11 21:53:50 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 21:53:57 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 21:54:29 daMaestro    i have some extra points I want to bring up before everyone leaves. lists on the mailing lists is one of them and i agree with Southern_Gentlem ; eof
Jun 11 21:54:45 Southern_Gentlem    !
Jun 11 21:54:48 Sonar_Guy    !
Jun 11 21:54:52 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Southern_Gentlem
Jun 11 21:55:33 Questor    !!!
Jun 11 21:55:37 Southern_Gentlem    the listserv gives us a way to get feedback for the next 3 weeks
Jun 11 21:55:39 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Jun 11 21:55:53 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Sonar_Guy
Jun 11 21:55:54 Sonar_Guy    I motioned that we end the meeting on this task not stop discussion, feel free to continue the discussion but after this and daMaestros motion we are ending the meeting.
Jun 11 21:55:58 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Jun 11 21:56:22 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Questor
Jun 11 21:57:25 Questor    <StillBob> I think we need some time to get our structure ready;   <Corwyn> what structure?   ;  <me>  This question was never answered.  Will someone answer it please?
Jun 11 21:57:33 Questor    EOF
Jun 11 21:57:53 *    daMaestro yields the floor for an answer
Jun 11 21:58:03 Southern_Gentlem    !
Jun 11 21:58:17 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Southern_Gentlem
Jun 11 21:58:39 Southern_Gentlem    exactly it gives us to set said structure
Jun 11 21:58:41 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Jun 11 21:59:02 Southern_Gentlem    time
Jun 11 21:59:17 Questor    ?
Jun 11 21:59:24 StillBob    !
Jun 11 21:59:34 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Questor
Jun 11 21:59:42 Questor    What said structure?
Jun 11 21:59:43 Questor    EOF
Jun 11 21:59:48 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to StillBob
Jun 11 22:00:14 StillBob    Sorry had to run out "structure" what our teams need ot be and so on, what the teams tasks will be
Jun 11 22:00:23 StillBob    EOF
Jun 11 22:00:42 Southern_Gentlem    *time*
Jun 11 22:01:24 Sonar_Gal    This has been completed just to let everyone know.  # What do we want to ask the Fedora Board related to respins?
Jun 11 22:01:24 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: Completed
Jun 11 22:01:24 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Bob Jensen
Jun 11 22:01:24 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: Follow Up to be conducted 2006-JUN-11
Jun 11 22:01:35 Sonar_Gal    next
Jun 11 22:01:37 StillBob    !
Jun 11 22:01:38 Sonar_Gal    # Need to discuss the options for editors?
Jun 11 22:01:38 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-JUN-11
Jun 11 22:01:38 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Ben Williams
Jun 11 22:01:38 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES:
Jun 11 22:01:42 Southern_Gentlem    bob #18 please
Jun 11 22:01:43 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to StillBob
Jun 11 22:01:48 StillBob    I have no numbers here
Jun 11 22:01:59 Southern_Gentlem    backup
Jun 11 22:02:02 Sonar_Gal    #8 Bob
Jun 11 22:02:06 Sonar_Gal    Southern_Gentlem, hush
Jun 11 22:02:08 StillBob    I have no numbers here
Jun 11 22:02:33 StillBob    We got a very nice email from Max of the fedora Board thanking us for our work on the respins
Jun 11 22:03:00 StillBob    He is using this as an example of how the fedora communty should work
Jun 11 22:03:01 Southern_Gentlem    !
Jun 11 22:03:26 StillBob    I will be forwarding this to a list once we have all that stuff worked out
Jun 11 22:03:27 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 22:03:28 Southern_Gentlem    several people in fedora has sent thanks to the group for the respins
Jun 11 22:03:30 StillBob    EOF
Jun 11 22:03:34 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Jun 11 22:03:36 Sonar_Gal    here is the Email
Jun 11 22:03:39 Sonar_Gal    Please extend my thanks to all of the Fedora Unity folks for the work that was done to make the respins a reality.  They generated a bit of buzz on slashdot, and also within Red Hat, as I sent a note talking about what you guys had done to a company-wide list, and held it up as an example of the kind of community driven innovation that we are trying to cultivate in Fedora. Like I said, I would love to see us be able to devote some
Jun 11 22:03:39 Sonar_Gal    QA resources to helping you out, and I'm going to talk to Will Woods and see what he thinks.
Jun 11 22:03:39 Sonar_Gal     
Jun 11 22:03:39 Sonar_Gal    Thanks again to you and the others.  Please forward this along.
Jun 11 22:03:41 Sonar_Gal     --Max
Jun 11 22:04:06 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 22:04:09 StillBob    Thanks Andrea
Jun 11 22:04:14 Sonar_Gal    StillBob, yw
Jun 11 22:04:17 daMaestro    are we ready for my blab? eof
Jun 11 22:04:42 StillBob    !
Jun 11 22:05:11 Sonar_Gal    +1 We will pick up with Item 8 at the next meeting.  daMaestro you have the floor
Jun 11 22:05:15 daMaestro    I propose we vote on email.fedoraunity.org vs lists.fedoraunity.org, we suggest and setup "groups" or lists, we decide on streams to feature on our site from fedoranews.org and maybe some from fedorasearch.org, I also would like to continue work on the bot and would like to build her on unity02, I would also like to build up perl for use with the tracker->xml stuff I am working on and for use via the bot, i would also like to setup a training VNC
Jun 11 22:05:15 daMaestro    session for everyone that want to.. to watch how to use the FDS console to manage ldap accounts
Jun 11 22:05:21 StillBob    X
Jun 11 22:05:42 daMaestro    oef
Jun 11 22:05:46 daMaestro    EOF
Jun 11 22:06:04 daMaestro    s/want/wants
Jun 11 22:06:33 StillBob    EOM?
Jun 11 22:06:41 Sonar_Guy    +1 lists.fedoraunity.org
Jun 11 22:06:47 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to StillBob
Jun 11 22:06:54 Corwyn    +1 lists.fedoraunity.org
Jun 11 22:06:55 StillBob    X
Jun 11 22:07:04 StillBob    -1
Jun 11 22:07:05 Southern_Gentlem    +1 both
Jun 11 22:07:07 Sonar_Gal    StillBob, yes after this is completed
Jun 11 22:07:12 daMaestro    as a note.. changing email.fedoraunity.org to lists.fedoraunity.org requires us to loose all subscriptions to this point
Jun 11 22:07:13 StillBob    !
Jun 11 22:07:22 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to StillBob
Jun 11 22:07:50 StillBob    Can we work on this for next week?
Jun 11 22:07:53 StillBob    EOF
Jun 11 22:07:56 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 22:08:00 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 22:08:02 daMaestro    i really want some direction on this
Jun 11 22:08:03 daMaestro    EOF
Jun 11 22:08:04 *    CRASH69_ (n=CRASH@201.200.94.66) has left #fedora-unity ("Leaving")
Jun 11 22:08:10 Questor    What StillBob said:  +1
Jun 11 22:08:21 Sonar_Guy    !
Jun 11 22:08:26 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Sonar_Guy
Jun 11 22:08:54 Sonar_Guy    Everybody sign up for the mailing list, lets discuss this there and be ready to discuss this next week!
Jun 11 22:08:56 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Jun 11 22:09:04 Questor    ?
Jun 11 22:09:09 Southern_Gentlem    ?
Jun 11 22:09:09 daMaestro    ok.. which list?
Jun 11 22:09:10 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Questor
Jun 11 22:09:14 daMaestro    oops
Jun 11 22:09:17 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 22:09:30 Questor    What mailing list(s) do we have available now??  And is there a generic "discuss" list available now?
Jun 11 22:09:40 Questor    And ... which list?
Jun 11 22:09:42 Questor    EOF
Jun 11 22:09:43 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Southern_Gentlem
Jun 11 22:09:47 Southern_Gentlem    why do we have to loose the mail account to do listserv?
Jun 11 22:09:51 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Jun 11 22:09:53 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 22:10:38 daMaestro    Southern_Gentlem, what? .... this is part of my motion.. to at least set down some new lists.. but I don't want to create them if we are going to use lists.fedoraunity.org .. because I then have to delete them
Jun 11 22:10:53 daMaestro    currently we have feedback and announcements
Jun 11 22:10:57 Southern_Gentlem    !
Jun 11 22:11:00 daMaestro    http://email.fedoraunity.org
Jun 11 22:11:04 StillBob    !
Jun 11 22:11:04 daMaestro    eof
Jun 11 22:11:11 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Southern_Gentlem
Jun 11 22:11:29 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Jun 11 22:11:54 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to StillBob
Jun 11 22:11:55 StillBob    create a temp-list for now on the existing email. subdomain
Jun 11 22:12:22 StillBob    we will work it out there, or just "do it"tonight lie we normally do
Jun 11 22:12:26 StillBob    EOF
Jun 11 22:12:38 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 22:12:44 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 22:12:53 Corwyn    !!!
Jun 11 22:14:07 daMaestro    ok.. well so the plan is to use feedback@ to discuss this.. you have to be subscribed to see the archive and to be a member of the list you have to be confirmed and authorized.. lets just do it there and I can clear out the archives if needed or if we decide to switch to lists.fedoraunity.org
Jun 11 22:14:08 nman64    !
Jun 11 22:14:15 daMaestro    EOF
Jun 11 22:14:17 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Corwyn
Jun 11 22:14:22 Corwyn    this is a technical issue that can be worked out out of the meeting...motion to close meeting and discuss mailing list issue outside of meeting.
Jun 11 22:14:23 *    StillBob wonders if EOM will ever come
Jun 11 22:14:24 Corwyn    eof
Jun 11 22:14:28 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to nman64
Jun 11 22:14:42 daMaestro    EOM
Jun 11 22:14:44 Sonar_Guy    StillBob: +1
Jun 11 22:15:01 nman64    I may have missed something, but I fail to see why we need a subdomain, and why changing the subdomain would require wiping the accounts.
Jun 11 22:15:06 nman64    EOF
Jun 11 22:15:17 daMaestro    EOM == end of meeting or eond of motion
Jun 11 22:15:17 daMaestro    !
Jun 11 22:15:33 Questor    2nd Corwyn's motion.
Jun 11 22:15:34 *    StillBob thinks in this case both
Jun 11 22:15:38 *    Sonar_Gal gives the floor to daMaestro
Jun 11 22:15:57 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Jun 11 22:16:06 daMaestro    nman64, this is an issue (in my eyes) with mailman... it takes a config var and pretty much hard codes it into the list.. i have had issues with it on other servers and on ours
Jun 11 22:16:15 daMaestro    when the var is changed.. only some of the urls are updated.
Jun 11 22:16:23 *    Sonar_Guy thinks that everybody needs to remember that only Madam Chairperson is the only person that can Open and Close the meeting!
Jun 11 22:16:25 daMaestro    so the only solution is to change the var and recreate the lists
Jun 11 22:16:35 StillBob    !
Jun 11 22:17:00 daMaestro    the archives could stay.. but the removing of the lists removes the subscribers and settings
Jun 11 22:17:02 Sonar_Gal    Vote to EOM
Jun 11 22:17:08 Corwyn    +1
Jun 11 22:17:18 Questor    +1
Jun 11 22:17:28 StillBob    We need to wrap this up, CAn nman64 daMaestro me and anyone who is interested in mailman set work this out in an hour or two?
Jun 11 22:17:29 *    Southern_Gentlem reminds Sonar_Guy  that the chairperson needs to speak for herself
Jun 11 22:17:32 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Jun 11 22:17:37 nman64    StillBob: +1
Jun 11 22:17:41 daMaestro    i already had to  fix this with the current lists that were using the hostname.. and had to change it to the new subdomain.. and after the change.. the hostname was still present across parts of mailman