Meeting Minutes for 13 August 2006

Aug 13 21:00:34 *    Sonar_Gal now calls this meeting to Order.
Aug 13 21:00:36 StillBob    Time for timer?
Aug 13 21:00:47 Sonar_Gal    tasklist for the meeting- http://fedoraunity.org/meeting-information/task-list/
Aug 13 21:01:09 Sonar_Gal    1. # Document our testing process to include step by step procedures for testing DVD and CD ISOs, this document will also cover all arch types i386, x86_64, and PPC. This is not going to be an easy task and was started by Jeroen van Meeuwen, a rough draft of this is to be presented at the 13 August 2006 meeting for the meeting members to review and comment on the progress.
Aug 13 21:01:09 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-AUG-13
Aug 13 21:01:09 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Testing Team Lead and Jeroen van Meeuwen
Aug 13 21:01:09 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES:  1st rough draft has been completed. Further cleanup/editting required. Tabled until 2006-AUG-13
Aug 13 21:01:19 kanarip    !
Aug 13 21:01:25 *    Sonar_Gal gives kanarip the floor.
Aug 13 21:02:11 StillBob    !
Aug 13 21:02:12 kanarip    i meant to have the more complete instructions on the test process, but i haven't
Aug 13 21:02:26 kanarip    i also didn't get any feedback on the general process design yet...
Aug 13 21:02:28 kanarip    EOF
Aug 13 21:02:31 *    Sonar_Gal gives StillBob the floor.
Aug 13 21:02:32 StillBob    With the new re-spin just getting populated we will need a week to get results going.
Aug 13 21:02:40 StillBob    EOF
Aug 13 21:03:07 kanarip    !
Aug 13 21:03:12 Sonar_Guy    ?
Aug 13 21:03:22 *    Sonar_Gal gives kanarip the floor.
Aug 13 21:03:33 kanarip    i suppose we all agree on the idea of having such process design??
Aug 13 21:03:34 kanarip    EOF
Aug 13 21:03:46 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 13 21:03:59 Sonar_Guy    So kanarip and StillBob: How do we want to update this task? Is more time needed?
Aug 13 21:04:01 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 13 21:04:11 StillBob    !
Aug 13 21:04:13 kanarip    !
Aug 13 21:04:19 *    Sonar_Gal gives StillBob the floor.
Aug 13 21:04:49 StillBob    Sonar_Guy: yeah we will start pushing result info and process data to kanarip this week so he shouldhave somethign to update for next week
Aug 13 21:04:52 StillBob    EOF
Aug 13 21:05:03 Sonar_Guy    +1
Aug 13 21:05:03 *    Sonar_Gal gives kanarip the floor.
Aug 13 21:05:11 kanarip    i do need the input, thanks StillBob
Aug 13 21:05:15 Sonar_Gal    +1
Aug 13 21:05:26 kanarip    meanwhile, the general process design is at http://torrent.fedoraunity.org/Members/kanarip/fedora-core-re-spin-process-design/fedora-core-re-spin-process-design/
Aug 13 21:05:38 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 13 21:05:39 corwyn    +1
Aug 13 21:05:45 kanarip    i know there is a lot to be commented on that document, so i need the feedback on that as well
Aug 13 21:05:47 kanarip    EOF
Aug 13 21:05:52 Sonar_Gal    Should this Item be tabled til the 20th so this can be worked on this week?
Aug 13 21:05:58 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 13 21:06:26 StillBob    +1
Aug 13 21:06:33 kanarip    +1
Aug 13 21:06:34 Sonar_Guy    So we need everybody on the test team to review the document, and set the new due date to 20-AUG pending kanarip receiving the results of the test of this re-spin.
Aug 13 21:06:50 kanarip    !
Aug 13 21:06:55 Sonar_Guy    Have comments on the process in by 16-Aug.
Aug 13 21:06:56 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 13 21:07:01 *    Sonar_Gal gives kanarip the floor.
Aug 13 21:07:24 kanarip    and, of course, the feedback on this draft... it's currently written from my point of view... which ain't all that much...
Aug 13 21:07:25 kanarip    EOF
Aug 13 21:07:41 Sonar_Gal    2. # Discuss adding a README to the ISO Directory that inclues Fedora Unity HOW-TOs on running SHA1SUM from Windows/Linux and Burning an ISO Image from both Windows/Linux. Both of these HOW-TOs also need to be added to FedoraSolved.Org
Aug 13 21:07:42 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-AUG-06
Aug 13 21:07:42 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Bob Jensen
Aug 13 21:07:42 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: Bob Jensen to complete 20060706, then we will then have to re-torrent the data and have our seeds get the new torrent. Message to be sent on the Test-List notifying that seeds will have to redownload after the change. To be addressed in the next release. Still in progress. Document completed, waiting for next re-spin to be published to ISO.
Aug 13 21:07:57 StillBob    !
Aug 13 21:08:03 *    Sonar_Gal gives StillBob the floor.
Aug 13 21:08:23 Sonar_Guy    ?
Aug 13 21:08:49 StillBob    IN talking with daMaestro we are wondering if pushing such a doc is really needed, there is a draft that covers this on FP.o that IMO we should just link and contribute to
Aug 13 21:08:54 StillBob    EOF
Aug 13 21:09:01 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 13 21:09:47 Sonar_Guy    I think we should as many people that install may not have Internet access at the time of the installation and could print this out for the install.
Aug 13 21:09:48 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 13 21:10:02 StillBob    !
Aug 13 21:10:07 *    Sonar_Gal gives StillBob the floor.
Aug 13 21:10:22 StillBob    What about a "read this while your torrent runs for the next 2 days" link?
Aug 13 21:10:31 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 13 21:10:44 StillBob    This was only addressing Burning
Aug 13 21:11:19 StillBob    this is a "pre-install" not "post-install" activity
Aug 13 21:11:24 StillBob    EOF
Aug 13 21:11:26 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 13 21:11:27 Sonar_Guy    X
Aug 13 21:11:36 Southern_Gentlem    !
Aug 13 21:11:41 *    Sonar_Gal gives Southern_Gentlem the floor.
Aug 13 21:12:05 Southern_Gentlem    i agree with bob if this is on our site it doesn need to be rolled into the torrent
Aug 13 21:12:11 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Aug 13 21:12:32 Sonar_Gal    3. # Discuss the translating of the various Fedora Unity sites to other Languages.
Aug 13 21:12:32 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-SEP-OCT
Aug 13 21:12:32 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Edit-Team
Aug 13 21:12:32 Sonar_Gal              * NOTES: Tabled till September/October timeframe after the release of FC6.
Aug 13 21:12:41 Sonar_Guy    StillBob: +1
Aug 13 21:12:46 Sonar_Gal    This item is tabled til the release of FC6
Aug 13 21:12:57 Sonar_Gal    4. # Next update to RESPIN ISOs of FC5.
Aug 13 21:12:57 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: TBD
Aug 13 21:12:57 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Re-Spin Team
Aug 13 21:12:57 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: First Re-Spin release it out dated 2006-May-23, Next release for test is due 3rd week of June. Bob tested i386 and x86_64, both work, will shoot for a snapshot tuesday. To be fully completed 2006-JUL-09. Waiting to see if FC6 will still need respins. Waiting for new kernel to be released due to preliminary testing issues. Postponed until TBD
Aug 13 21:13:20 daMaestro    !
Aug 13 21:13:21 StillBob    !
Aug 13 21:13:25 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 13 21:13:33 daMaestro    torrent is available for testing 20050811 EOF
Aug 13 21:13:34 StillBob    X
Aug 13 21:13:40 daMaestro    lol
Aug 13 21:13:42 daMaestro    05
Aug 13 21:13:47 daMaestro    20060811
Aug 13 21:13:53 StillBob    !
Aug 13 21:13:57 *    Sonar_Gal gives StillBob the floor.
Aug 13 21:14:29 StillBob    We still do not have PPC or Cds available yet, will need ot get some thigns going in that front
Aug 13 21:14:51 kanarip    !
Aug 13 21:14:52 StillBob    I was hoping kanarip would of had luck this weekend withthe CD Bit
Aug 13 21:15:17 StillBob    So we may have 0811 and 08XX releases this month for the CDs
Aug 13 21:15:20 StillBob    EOF
Aug 13 21:15:24 *    Sonar_Gal gives kanarip the floor.
Aug 13 21:15:29 Sonar_Guy    ?
Aug 13 21:15:30 kanarip    as far as the cd re-spins are concerned, i'm working on that. I suppose i'll prioritize that for the next few days, over the documentation
Aug 13 21:15:48 kanarip    i'm still experiencing some problems though, like cd's of 406 KB...
Aug 13 21:15:51 kanarip    EOF
Aug 13 21:15:53 StillBob    kanarip: +1
Aug 13 21:16:07 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 13 21:16:08 Sonar_Guy    Also where do we stand with the FC6T2 Live CD?  EOF
Aug 13 21:16:13 Sonar_Guy    kanarip: +1
Aug 13 21:16:14 StillBob    !
Aug 13 21:16:43 *    Sonar_Gal gives StillBob the floor.
Aug 13 21:16:57 StillBob    Sonar_Guy: I am hoping now that we have the ISOs out for testing autopsy and I will be able to start looking at kadashi and Live media
Aug 13 21:17:00 StillBob    EOF
Aug 13 21:17:14 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 13 21:17:17 StillBob    !
Aug 13 21:17:24 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 13 21:17:40 corwyn    !!!
Aug 13 21:17:46 Sonar_Guy    I think we need to add individual bugs for those tasks so we can see any discussions/progress made.  EOF
Aug 13 21:17:51 *    Sonar_Gal gives StillBob the floor.
Aug 13 21:18:15 StillBob    We are off topic on this task item...EOF
Aug 13 21:18:21 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Aug 13 21:18:22 corwyn    Live CD can be brought up with item 6 eof
Aug 13 21:18:43 Sonar_Gal    5. # Test next release for Fedora Unity Re-Spins.
Aug 13 21:18:43 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: TBD
Aug 13 21:18:43 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Test-Lead
Aug 13 21:18:43 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: All testing to be completed No later than 2006-AUG-11. Update the testing matrix as you complete a task on the list.
Aug 13 21:18:46 *    StillBob kicks Sonar_Guy in the shin and runs
Aug 13 21:19:00 StillBob    !
Aug 13 21:19:06 *    Sonar_Gal gives StillBob the floor.
Aug 13 21:19:17 StillBob    We need a date correction on this item
Aug 13 21:19:34 StillBob    Date Due, 18th
Aug 13 21:19:44 kanarip    +1
Aug 13 21:19:48 StillBob    EOF
Aug 13 21:19:49 Southern_Gentlem    20th
Aug 13 21:19:55 StillBob    !
Aug 13 21:19:58 Sonar_Gal    corwyn, please update this task Due Date of 18Aug
Aug 13 21:20:02 corwyn    done
Aug 13 21:20:11 *    Sonar_Gal gives StillBob the floor.
Aug 13 21:20:26 StillBob    the 18th, we test this weeka nd push the ISOs tot he public over the weekend
Aug 13 21:20:33 Sonar_Gal    +1
Aug 13 21:20:34 StillBob    EOF
Aug 13 21:20:43 kanarip    +1
Aug 13 21:21:02 Southern_Gentlem    !
Aug 13 21:21:07 *    Sonar_Gal gives Southern_Gentlem the floor.
Aug 13 21:21:37 Southern_Gentlem    if it is fully testde and we dont find anything major
Aug 13 21:21:42 StillBob    !
Aug 13 21:21:46 StillBob    Naturally
Aug 13 21:21:50 StillBob    oops
Aug 13 21:21:52 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Aug 13 21:21:58 *    Sonar_Gal gives StillBob the floor.
Aug 13 21:22:10 *    Sonar_Gal gets the frying pan out for Bob
Aug 13 21:22:20 StillBob    X
Aug 13 21:22:30 *    corwyn gives StillBob the boobie prize for this week
Aug 13 21:22:41 StillBob    EOF
Aug 13 21:22:42 Sonar_Gal    6. # Spin out Test release LiveCDs. Spin out RAWHIDE LiveCDs. Automate RAWHIDE spins, spin Test LiveCD every Test release. The exact details are unknown at this time, however is an item in the Task List. This will help in aiding bug-smashers and other testers that do not wish to install a Test release or RAWHIDE, since they may be broken.. of course.
Aug 13 21:22:42 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-AUG-27
Aug 13 21:22:42 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Test-Lead
Aug 13 21:22:42 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: Details are unavailable, will update when more info is gained.
Aug 13 21:23:05 StillBob    !
Aug 13 21:23:10 *    Sonar_Gal gives StillBob the floor.
Aug 13 21:23:45 StillBob    As I said I hope to work on this task with autopsy this week while testing the re-spins willhave a status update next week
Aug 13 21:23:49 StillBob    EOF
Aug 13 21:24:22 Sonar_Gal    7.  # Create back-up of the servers Unity01, Unity02, and Unity03 every sunday after the meeting. Also create a backup prior to any major configuration change.
Aug 13 21:24:22 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: On-Going
Aug 13 21:24:22 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Bob Jensen
Aug 13 21:24:22 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: Backup, Backup, Backup!!
Aug 13 21:24:27 StillBob    !
Aug 13 21:24:31 *    Sonar_Gal gives StillBob the floor.
Aug 13 21:24:47 StillBob    We have been seeing some odd issues with Unity03
Aug 13 21:25:19 StillBob    I am hoping we can make things stay working until FC6 comes out for our upgrade/clean install
Aug 13 21:25:26 daMaestro    !
Aug 13 21:25:31 StillBob    I will be only snapshotting tonight
Aug 13 21:25:35 StillBob    EOF
Aug 13 21:25:36 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 13 21:25:37 daMaestro    unity03 or server03?
Aug 13 21:25:39 daMaestro    EOF
Aug 13 21:25:52 StillBob    !
Aug 13 21:25:56 *    Sonar_Gal gives StillBob the floor.
Aug 13 21:26:03 StillBob    they may be releated
Aug 13 21:26:13 StillBob    looking at the big picture
Aug 13 21:26:16 StillBob    EOF
Aug 13 21:26:23 daMaestro    !
Aug 13 21:26:37 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 13 21:26:41 StillBob    !
Aug 13 21:26:45 kanarip    !!!
Aug 13 21:26:59 Sonar_Gal    can I please open the floor?
Aug 13 21:27:05 daMaestro    yes
Aug 13 21:27:06 kanarip    +1
Aug 13 21:27:12 corwyn    +1
Aug 13 21:27:22 Sonar_Gal    Floor is now open for discussion!!!
Aug 13 21:27:22 StillBob    server3 the VM host has had some stability issues, I my replace the PSU this week if I can
Aug 13 21:27:27 StillBob    EOF
Aug 13 21:27:37 kanarip    isn't this something for the server-team list StillBob, daMaestro?
Aug 13 21:27:48 daMaestro    we both know about it
Aug 13 21:27:55 daMaestro    and have discussed it privately
Aug 13 21:28:21 daMaestro    i don't think the issue is with unity03, just server03
Aug 13 21:28:39 daMaestro    but we will find out later; i have the same services running on a vm and have not had any issues
Aug 13 21:28:54 daMaestro    so i have no idea what the issue is; however, i have also not looked at it very hard
Aug 13 21:29:29 kanarip    daMaestro, can i adjust the permissions on my document so that ... can see it?
Aug 13 21:29:42 kanarip    and if so, what permissions do i need to add? i mean, which groups?
Aug 13 21:30:09 corwyn    Move to tables Priority 2 and 3 items until next week
Aug 13 21:30:25 StillBob    corwyn: +1
Aug 13 21:30:27 corwyn    s/tables/table
Aug 13 21:30:57 Sonar_Gal    +1
Aug 13 21:31:12 Sonar_Guy    +1
Aug 13 21:31:22 Sonar_Gal    ok Any questions on any Items in the Tasklist for tonight?
Aug 13 21:31:33 Southern_Gentlem    nope
Aug 13 21:31:38 corwyn    unless there is further discussion on anything tonight, move to close the meeting
Aug 13 21:31:50 StillBob    corwyn: +1
Aug 13 21:31:51 daMaestro    kanarip, the 'sharing' tab
Aug 13 21:32:09 daMaestro    install servers
Aug 13 21:32:26 daMaestro    i'd just like to test the waters on what people think about fedora unity re-spin install servers
Aug 13 21:32:26 Sonar_Guy    Sonar_Gal: +1
Aug 13 21:32:28 daMaestro    *public
Aug 13 21:32:30 *    Sonar_Gal now calls this meeting closed for tonight.