Meeting Minutes for 20 August 2006

Aug 20 21:00:49 *    Sonar_Gal now calls this meeting to order.
Aug 20 21:00:57 Sonar_Gal    http://fedoraunity.org/meeting-information/task-list/
Aug 20 21:01:14 Sonar_Gal    1. # Document our testing process to include step by step procedures for testing DVD and CD ISOs, this document will also cover all arch types i386, x86_64, and PPC. This is not going to be an easy task and was started by Jeroen van Meeuwen, a rough draft of this is to be presented at the 13 August 2006 meeting for the meeting members to review and comment on the progress.
Aug 20 21:01:15 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-AUG-20
Aug 20 21:01:15 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Testing Team Lead and Jeroen van Meeuwen
Aug 20 21:01:15 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES:  1st rough draft has been completed. Further cleanup/editting required. Tabled until 2006-Aug-20
Aug 20 21:02:01 BobJensen    !
Aug 20 21:02:08 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Aug 20 21:02:54 BobJensen    I worked most of the week with kanarip so he now understands the Re-Spin creation process better this was the first step in getting the testing info ready, our work will continue this week
Aug 20 21:02:56 BobJensen    EOF
Aug 20 21:03:32 Sonar_Gal    corwyn, please update this task for sept 3.
Aug 20 21:03:50 Sonar_Gal    2. # Discuss adding a README to the ISO Directory that inclues Fedora Unity HOW-TOs on running SHA1SUM from Windows/Linux and Burning an ISO Image from both Windows/Linux. Both of these HOW-TOs also need to be added to FedoraSolved.Org
Aug 20 21:03:50 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-AUG-06
Aug 20 21:03:50 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Bob Jensen
Aug 20 21:03:50 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: Bob Jensen to complete 20060706, then we will then have to re-torrent the data and have our seeds get the new torrent. Message to be sent on the Test-List notifying that seeds will have to redownload after the change. To be addressed in the next release. Still in progress. Document completed, waiting for next re-spin to be published to ISO.
Aug 20 21:03:58 BobJensen    !
Aug 20 21:04:07 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Aug 20 21:04:55 BobJensen    We are going to be only linking and contributing to the document that is on FedoraProject.org rather including a doc in our torrents
Aug 20 21:05:40 BobJensen    I think this will be better for the community overall and willl aloow the document to be an evolving item for the end users rather then a static document
Aug 20 21:05:43 BobJensen    EOF
Aug 20 21:06:22 Sonar_Gal    3.  # Discuss the translating of the various Fedora Unity sites to other Languages.
Aug 20 21:06:22 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-SEP-OCT
Aug 20 21:06:22 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Edit-Team
Aug 20 21:06:22 Sonar_Gal              * NOTES: Tabled till September/October timeframe after the release of FC6.
Aug 20 21:06:34 BobJensen    !
Aug 20 21:06:35 Sonar_Gal    This item has been tabled till the release of FC6
Aug 20 21:06:41 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Aug 20 21:06:59 BobJensen    Correct the Months please we are now looking at Oct/Nov
Aug 20 21:07:02 BobJensen    EOF
Aug 20 21:07:36 Sonar_Gal    4.  # Next update to RESPIN ISOs of FC5.
Aug 20 21:07:36 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-AUG-11
Aug 20 21:07:36 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Re-Spin Team
Aug 20 21:07:36 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: First Re-Spin release it out dated 2006-May-23, Next release for test is due 3rd week of June. Bob tested i386 and x86_64, both work, will shoot for a snapshot tuesday. To be fully completed 2006-AUG-18. Waiting to see if FC6 will still need respins. Waiting for new kernel to be released due to preliminary testing issues.
Aug 20 21:08:05 BobJensen    !
Aug 20 21:08:11 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Aug 20 21:08:37 BobJensen    We have new re-spins available for testing, iw ill be getitng an announcement ready for our test list once daMaestro gives me the OK
Aug 20 21:09:06 BobJensen    The Re-sPins dated the 11th should be removed if you are now seeding them
Aug 20 21:09:08 BobJensen    EOF
Aug 20 21:09:19 corwyn    ?
Aug 20 21:09:24 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Aug 20 21:09:26 corwyn    new dates?
Aug 20 21:09:27 corwyn    eof
Aug 20 21:09:36 BobJensen    !
Aug 20 21:09:41 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Aug 20 21:10:45 BobJensen    corwyn: I think we can target Friday for tests complete, when working with kanarip this week we will be re-working the test matrix
Aug 20 21:10:59 Sonar_Guy    ?
Aug 20 21:11:00 BobJensen    so this should help
Aug 20 21:11:02 BobJensen    EOF
Aug 20 21:11:06 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 20 21:11:15 Sonar_Guy    Has anybody contacted wwoods about the testing tools available??
Aug 20 21:11:17 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 20 21:11:24 BobJensen    !
Aug 20 21:11:29 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Aug 20 21:12:06 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: I talked to will this past week a couple times, We should be taling again on monday or tuesday
Aug 20 21:12:08 BobJensen    EOF
Aug 20 21:12:26 Sonar_Guy    +1
Aug 20 21:12:46 Sonar_Gal    +1
Aug 20 21:12:49 corwyn    +1
Aug 20 21:12:57 Sonar_Gal    5.  # Test next release for Fedora Unity Re-Spins.
Aug 20 21:12:57 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-AUG-18
Aug 20 21:12:57 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Test-Lead
Aug 20 21:12:57 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: All testing to be completed No later than 2006-AUG-18. Update the testing matrix as you complete a task on the list.
Aug 20 21:13:12 BobJensen    !
Aug 20 21:13:17 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Aug 20 21:13:36 BobJensen    I covered this already I guees in the earlier item, Tests done Friday...EOF
Aug 20 21:13:41 Sonar_Gal    yup
Aug 20 21:13:46 corwyn    done
Aug 20 21:13:49 Sonar_Gal    6.  # Spin out Test release LiveCDs. Spin out RAWHIDE LiveCDs. Automate RAWHIDE spins, spin Test LiveCD every Test release. The exact details are unknown at this time, however is an item in the Task List. This will help in aiding bug-smashers and other testers that do not wish to install a Test release or RAWHIDE, since they may be broken.. of course.
Aug 20 21:13:49 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-AUG-27
Aug 20 21:13:49 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Test-Lead
Aug 20 21:13:57 BobJensen    !
Aug 20 21:14:06 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Aug 20 21:14:27 BobJensen    We have FC6T2 "Live-Spins" on the torrent now
Aug 20 21:14:55 Southern_Gentlem    ?
Aug 20 21:15:11 BobJensen    We also tried FC5 (Curent) Live-Spins that failed I hope to work with autopsy ASAP to get new ones built
Aug 20 21:15:39 BobJensen    these ill require very little testing but I think thye will be good for the community
Aug 20 21:15:41 BobJensen    EOF
Aug 20 21:15:49 *    Sonar_Gal gives Southern_Gentlem the floor.
Aug 20 21:15:53 Southern_Gentlem    should we stop  the fc5 live if we are seeding ?
Aug 20 21:15:56 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Aug 20 21:15:58 BobJensen    !
Aug 20 21:16:03 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Aug 20 21:16:06 BobJensen    Yes please
Aug 20 21:16:23 BobJensen    the FC5 LiveCD and LiveDVD failed on two sets of hardware here
Aug 20 21:16:40 BobJensen    they got pushed out before I had a chance to test them
Aug 20 21:16:50 BobJensen    sorry about any problem i caused
Aug 20 21:16:52 BobJensen    EOF
Aug 20 21:17:03 Southern_Gentlem    !
Aug 20 21:17:18 *    Sonar_Gal gives Southern_Gentlem the floor.
Aug 20 21:17:26 Southern_Gentlem    crap hapens sometimes, we are not perfect in anyway  eof
Aug 20 21:17:32 Sonar_Gal       7. Create back-up of the servers Unity01, Unity02, and Unity03 every sunday after the meeting. Also create a backup prior to any major configuration change.
Aug 20 21:17:33 Sonar_Gal              * DATE DUE: On-Going
Aug 20 21:17:33 Sonar_Gal              * ASSIGNED: Bob Jensen
Aug 20 21:17:33 Sonar_Gal                    o NOTES: Backup, Backup, Backup!!
Aug 20 21:17:39 BobJensen    !
Aug 20 21:17:49 Sonar_Gal    Floor is now open for discussion for 30 minutes.
Aug 20 21:17:53 BobJensen    I did this this afternoon as I was not sure I would be back for the meeting
Aug 20 21:17:58 Sonar_Gal    Bob yes you did the backups already
Aug 20 21:18:03 Sonar_Gal    lol
Aug 20 21:18:38 corwyn    regarding Fedorasolved. I've noticed some editing has reverted, did we have to restore from a backup?
Aug 20 21:18:53 BobJensen    corwyn: Not that i know of
Aug 20 21:19:12 corwyn    odd, all the posts I corrected su --login to su - have reverted
Aug 20 21:19:20 BobJensen    corwyn: I know some changes were done by a member of the community had to be reverted
Aug 20 21:19:37 corwyn    oh? such as?
Aug 20 21:19:41 BobJensen    corwyn: Hmm, dunno about that
Aug 20 21:20:00 BobJensen    corwyn: it was one post IIRC I do not know the details
Aug 20 21:20:27 Southern_Gentlem    ok i dont know if anyone else notice but it appears fedorafaq is down
Aug 20 21:20:32 BobJensen    corwyn: We might need to check with daMaestro abotu others, can you see who reverted what?
Aug 20 21:20:35 Sonar_Guy    corwyn: what posts are you reffering to??
Aug 20 21:20:36 corwyn    well, with my rebuilding my system, I had to go through a number of various posts and found them reverted, I'll check with daMaestro
Aug 20 21:21:04 corwyn    hang on
Aug 20 21:22:03 BobJensen    Some things may need the --login but I do not think that it is the rule in general, I personally have never needed it but I have not used all of our istructions
Aug 20 21:22:22 corwyn    flash player, java install
Aug 20 21:22:56 corwyn    those are the two that stand out in my mind at present, I'll have to go back through them again
Aug 20 21:23:10 BobJensen    corwyn: those are two I have never used...sorry
Aug 20 21:23:12 corwyn    I went through a few while reinstalling my system
Aug 20 21:23:50 Southern_Gentlem    i got a google cache copy of fc5 in case it doesnt come back up
Aug 20 21:23:50 Sonar_Guy    nothing in the flash post was modified as far as I can see
Aug 20 21:23:54 corwyn    and I know for a fact that I'd fixed 100% of the posts for that issue, so it kinda stands out like a sore thumb to me
Aug 20 21:24:19 Sonar_Guy    corwyn: that --login is needed there so new users do not just do a su
Aug 20 21:25:01 BobJensen    Yes when we have a user becoming root we need "su --login"
Aug 20 21:25:05 Sonar_Guy    same thing with the java post.
Aug 20 21:25:21 BobJensen    but the "su -c" does not require it
Aug 20 21:25:33 BobJensen    that is the only difference
Aug 20 21:26:14 *    autopsy (n=AutOPSY@68-67-99-130.atlaga.adelphia.net) has joined #Fedora-Unity
Aug 20 21:26:14 corwyn    ok, so it was put back, gotcha, glad I was told, cause I was gonna go in and fix them again :)
Aug 20 21:26:34 BobJensen    corwyn: yup no problem that is why we are a team
Aug 20 21:26:37 Sonar_Guy    no, it was not modified in the first place.
Aug 20 21:26:46 BobJensen    WB autopsy
Aug 20 21:27:07 corwyn    ok
Aug 20 21:27:10 BobJensen    does anyone have any other pressing business they would liek to discuss?
Aug 20 21:27:17 Southern_Gentlem    ok i dont know if anyone else notice but it appears fedorafaq is down
Aug 20 21:27:22 Sonar_Guy    Nobody has modified those posts since the chages wer made.
Aug 20 21:27:32 BobJensen    If Not I would like to motion that we calll the meeting closed
Aug 20 21:27:40 corwyn    +1
Aug 20 21:27:45 autopsy    Hm. Hi.
Aug 20 21:27:58 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: and we do not have anythhing to do with that site... What shoudl we do?
Aug 20 21:28:01 Sonar_Guy    +1
Aug 20 21:28:03 Southern_Gentlem    is there anything there we need should try to get on our sites
Aug 20 21:28:13 autopsy    BobJensen, I am not able to boot either LiveCD spin from our spins.
Aug 20 21:28:17 Sonar_Guy    Not without their permission.
Aug 20 21:28:21 Southern_Gentlem    ok
Aug 20 21:28:28 autopsy    BobJensen, did we decide to respin these and pinpoint the problem?
Aug 20 21:29:00 *    Sonar_Gal now calls this meeting closed!