Meeting Minutes for 23 April 2006

Apr 23 21:01:24 * Sonar_Gal now calls this meeting to order.
Apr 23 21:02:01 EvilBob we have nother hour
Apr 23 21:02:10 Sonar_Gal huh
Apr 23 21:02:20 EvilBob 0200 UTC
Apr 23 21:03:17 Southern_Gentlem no we dont
Apr 23 21:03:28 EvilBob OK then fix the topic BOB
Apr 23 21:03:34 Sonar_Gal lol
Apr 23 21:03:35 * EvilBob ducks
Apr 23 21:03:39 Sonar_Gal 9pm est
Apr 23 21:03:49 * Topic for #fedora-unity is: Fedora Unity Project http://www.fedoraunity.org/ - FOR END-USER SUPPORT PLEASE USE #FEDORA - Check out #Fedora-Social - Bringing Unity to Fedora Community Web Sites - Gobby server, gobby.fedoraunity.org - Meetings Sun 2100 EST (Monday 0200 GMT) - Rule #1 if you think there might be a conflict rising STFU!! - We are planning a Fedora, Friends and Fun get together in Virginia Beach VA June 23-30 2006. Ask for more Information. And No SPEEDOS!!
Apr 23 21:03:49 * Topic for #fedora-unity set by Sonar_Guy at Mon Apr 17 22:07:16 2006
Apr 23 21:03:56 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to EvilBob
Apr 23 21:04:27 * EvilBob has changed the topic to: Fedora Unity Project http://www.fedoraunity.org/ - FOR END-USER SUPPORT PLEASE USE #FEDORA - Check out #Fedora-Social - Bringing Unity to Fedora Community Web Sites - Gobby server, gobby.fedoraunity.org - Meetings Sun 2100 EST (Monday 0100 UTC) - Rule #1 if you think there might be a conflict rising STFU!! - We are planning a Fedora, Friends and Fun get together in Virginia Beach VA June 23-30 2006. Ask for more Information. And No SPEEDOS
Apr 23 21:04:47 Sonar_Guy lol
Apr 23 21:05:10 EvilBob I'll have a triple heart attack burger with bacon and Fries
Apr 23 21:05:54 EvilBob so do we have a task list yet?
Apr 23 21:06:12 Sonar_Gal item 1 Discuss adding metadata and the liscense agreement to each post. Need a standard format for the metadata to make it easy for users and reviewers to do this. Discuss at the next meeting.
Apr 23 21:06:33 EvilBob ?
Apr 23 21:06:39 Sonar_Guy Also with that topic we need to discuss the standardization of the posts/Templates.
Apr 23 21:06:45 * Sonar_Gal gives the floor to EvilBob
Apr 23 21:06:48 EvilBob Who prioritizes this Crap?
Apr 23 21:06:52 EvilBob EOF
Apr 23 21:06:58 Sonar_Gal lol
Apr 23 21:06:59 Sonar_Guy !
Apr 23 21:07:10 * Sonar_Gal gives the floor to Sonar_Guy
Apr 23 21:07:42 * You have been kicked from #Fedora-Unity by EvilBob (EvilBob)
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Apr 23 21:08:11 * Now talking on #fedora-unity
Apr 23 21:08:11 * Topic for #fedora-unity is: Fedora Unity Project http://www.fedoraunity.org/ - FOR END-USER SUPPORT PLEASE USE #FEDORA - Check out #Fedora-Social - Bringing Unity to Fedora Community Web Sites - Gobby server, gobby.fedoraunity.org - Meetings Sun 2100 EST (Monday 0100 UTC) - Rule #1 if you think there might be a conflict rising STFU!! - We are planning a Fedora, Friends and Fun get together in Virginia Beach VA June 23-30 2006. Ask for more Information. And No SPEEDOS
Apr 23 21:08:11 * Topic for #fedora-unity set by EvilBob at Sun Apr 23 21:04:33 2006
Apr 23 21:08:33 EvilBob If you ask for the floor speak or you get the door
Apr 23 21:08:39 EvilBob EOF
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Apr 23 21:09:51 * Now talking on #Fedora-Unity
Apr 23 21:09:51 * Topic for #Fedora-Unity is: Fedora Unity Project http://www.fedoraunity.org/ - FOR END-USER SUPPORT PLEASE USE #FEDORA - Check out #Fedora-Social - Bringing Unity to Fedora Community Web Sites - Gobby server, gobby.fedoraunity.org - Meetings Sun 2100 EST (Monday 0100 UTC) - Rule #1 if you think there might be a conflict rising STFU!! - We are planning a Fedora, Friends and Fun get together in Virginia Beach VA June 23-30 2006. Ask for more Information. And No SPEEDOS
Apr 23 21:09:51 * Topic for #Fedora-Unity set by EvilBob at Sun Apr 23 21:04:33 2006
Apr 23 21:09:59 EvilBob It's about time
Apr 23 21:10:02 Sonar_Guy lol
Apr 23 21:10:06 EvilBob now we have an open floor
Apr 23 21:10:14 EvilBob close the door
Apr 23 21:10:16 EvilBob hehehe
Apr 23 21:10:19 Southern_Gentlem bob gawd i hope you do that in the ambassadors meeting
Apr 23 21:10:33 Sonar_Guy I put all the tasks in as pri 1 until we decide what to do with then,
Apr 23 21:10:47 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: OK fair enough
Apr 23 21:10:51 Sonar_Guy daMestro/questor said we need to discuss that topic.
Apr 23 21:10:59 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: move this one to lower on the list
Apr 23 21:11:09 EvilBob still in Pri 1
Apr 23 21:11:27 EvilBob we have other fish to fry
Apr 23 21:11:38 Sonar_Gal what fish is that
Apr 23 21:11:49 EvilBob what else is no the list
Apr 23 21:12:01 Southern_Gentlem to me it looks we could do a .css for each page that would do the license stuff
Apr 23 21:12:10 Southern_Gentlem a global
Apr 23 21:12:17 EvilBob css does not add content
Apr 23 21:12:28 EvilBob css is for formatting only
Apr 23 21:12:59 Sonar_Gal OK
Apr 23 21:13:03 Southern_Gentlem cant do a .css that adds opl at the bottom of all post?
Apr 23 21:13:08 EvilBob Nope
Apr 23 21:13:12 EvilBob not what it does
Apr 23 21:13:34 EvilBob cold be added to the site footer or the template however
Apr 23 21:13:48 EvilBob if that is what you are thinking
Apr 23 21:14:03 Southern_Gentlem ok
Apr 23 21:14:25 EvilBob I wonder if there is a way to do like a ssi in the posts
Apr 23 21:14:37 Southern_Gentlem ssi?
Apr 23 21:14:41 EvilBob if people use our templtes this should not be an issue anyhow
Apr 23 21:14:53 EvilBob it is already there for them
Apr 23 21:15:26 EvilBob problem is people are writing pages from scratch
Apr 23 21:15:57 * perry753 has quit ("Leaving")
Apr 23 21:16:31 EvilBob can i get a link to the list of tasks?
Apr 23 21:16:35 * perry753 (n=perry753@c-24-4-29-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #fedora-unity
Apr 23 21:17:01 Sonar_Guy http://fedoraunity.org/fedoraunity-org-meeting-information/fedora-unity-project-task-list
Apr 23 21:17:27 EvilBob can we shorten that URL so I can put it in the topic please
Apr 23 21:17:51 EvilBob http://fedoraunity.org/meeting-information/task-list
Apr 23 21:17:58 Sonar_Guy Give me a sec
Apr 23 21:18:50 EvilBob K
Apr 23 21:18:55 Southern_Gentlem well can we force them to only use our template
Apr 23 21:19:22 EvilBob My 'rents just walked in, can we take a 5 minute break
Apr 23 21:19:51 Sonar_Gal OK NO PROBLEM
Apr 23 21:20:02 Sonar_Gal damn it sorry hit the caps lock
Apr 23 21:20:49 Sonar_Guy http://fedoraunity.org/meeting-information/task-list/
Apr 23 21:25:11 * EvilBob has changed the topic to: Fedora Unity Project http://www.fedoraunity.org/ - FOR END-USER SUPPORT PLEASE USE #FEDORA - Check out #Fedora-Social - Bringing Unity to Fedora Community Web Sites - Gobby server, gobby.fedoraunity.org - Meetings Sun 2100 EST (Monday 0100 UTC) http://fedoraunity.org/meeting-information/task-list/ - Rule #1 if you think there might be a conflict rising STFU!! - We are planning a Fedora, Friends and Fun get together in Virginia Beach VA June 23
Apr 23 21:26:20 * EvilBob has changed the topic to: Fedora Unity Project http://www.fedoraunity.org/ - FOR END-USER SUPPORT PLEASE USE #FEDORA - Check out #Fedora-Social - Bringing Unity to Fedora Community Web Sites - Gobby server, gobby.fedoraunity.org - Meetings Sun 2100 EST (Monday 0100 UTC) http://fedoraunity.org/meeting-information/task-list/ - We are planning a Fedora, Friends and Fun get together in Virginia Beach VA June 23-30 2006. Ask for more Information. And No SPEEDOS
Apr 23 21:26:27 EvilBob back
Apr 23 21:26:39 EvilBob Dad was just here to borrow tools
Apr 23 21:26:45 Sonar_Guy lol
Apr 23 21:27:13 Southern_Gentlem i thought it worked the other way around
Apr 23 21:27:24 Southern_Gentlem you borrowed tools from your dad
Apr 23 21:27:32 EvilBob Sometimes
Apr 23 21:27:44 Southern_Gentlem i know i do
Apr 23 21:28:23 * Questor (i=ident@fedora/questor) has joined #Fedora-Unity
Apr 23 21:28:35 Sonar_Gal evening Questor
Apr 23 21:28:40 EvilBob Welcome to our Sunday meeting Questor
Apr 23 21:29:20 Questor Hi there and thank yhou.
Apr 23 21:30:32 Southern_Gentlem my mom just bought a new truck, i am borrowing it to come camping LOL
Apr 23 21:30:39 Sonar_Guy lol
Apr 23 21:30:45 Sonar_Gal hehe
Apr 23 21:30:53 Questor :)
Apr 23 21:30:57 Sonar_Guy Now all we need is daMestro,
Apr 23 21:31:04 Questor Oh dear.
Apr 23 21:31:13 Questor I was wondering if the meeting were over already?
Apr 23 21:31:27 Sonar_Guy nope, just starting
Apr 23 21:31:33 Questor Sounds like the opposite.
Apr 23 21:31:37 Sonar_Gal lol
Apr 23 21:31:46 Southern_Gentlem Sonar_Guy, i thought you had done a won32coedecs howto
Apr 23 21:31:58 Sonar_Gal ok Task 2 on the list Create a CVS/SVN mailing list.
Apr 23 21:32:09 Sonar_Guy btw, I added that link you e-mailed me to the NTFS post.
Apr 23 21:32:19 Sonar_Guy Southern_Gentlem: no daMestro did one.
Apr 23 21:32:31 Southern_Gentlem where is it posted
Apr 23 21:32:44 Sonar_Gal yo people
Apr 23 21:32:53 Sonar_Gal Task 2 on the list Create a CVS/SVN mailing list.
Apr 23 21:32:57 Sonar_Guy http://fedorasolved.org/video-solutions/win32-codecs/
Apr 23 21:33:15 Sonar_Gal Bob where does it go
Apr 23 21:34:00 Sonar_Gal grr
Apr 23 21:34:12 Sonar_Gal # Create a CVS/SVN mailing list.
Apr 23 21:34:38 EvilBob Pest install
Apr 23 21:35:17 Sonar_Gal lol
Apr 23 21:36:19 Sonar_Gal ok and when is it going to be done or are we moving in in priority
Apr 23 21:37:06 Questor What is a CVS/SVN mailing list?
Apr 23 21:37:07 EvilBob the cvs/svn/mailing list thing is a big project
Apr 23 21:37:36 EvilBob Questor: it is just two server adfmin tasks grouped together
Apr 23 21:38:03 EvilBob we want a CVS or SVN server and a mailing list set up
Apr 23 21:38:39 EvilBob lets shoot for a deadline of May15 or the nearest sunday
Apr 23 21:39:02 Sonar_Gal ok so may 16th as a due date
Apr 23 21:39:03 EvilBob we need to get FedoraSearch.org online
Apr 23 21:39:16 Sonar_Gal I agree
Apr 23 21:39:24 EvilBob mark it as "no more pushes"
Apr 23 21:39:55 Sonar_Gal ok
Apr 23 21:40:00 EvilBob task 3?
Apr 23 21:40:05 EvilBob that is gja's project right?
Apr 23 21:40:08 Sonar_Gal # Index sites scattered through fedoraforum.org Links forum and add them to the FedoraUnity.Org site as applicable.
Apr 23 21:40:10 EvilBob he is AFK
Apr 23 21:40:32 EvilBob we all need to refresh so we have the smae numbering
Apr 23 21:40:47 Sonar_Gal you made scott shorten the name so it's AFU'ed
Apr 23 21:41:27 EvilBob http://fedoraunity.org/meeting-information/task-list/
Apr 23 21:41:31 Questor AFU? as in SNAFU?
Apr 23 21:41:41 Sonar_Guy http://fedoraunity.org/meeting-information/task-list
Apr 23 21:41:48 Sonar_Gal Questor, yup
Apr 23 21:42:04 EvilBob Ok task 2 then
Apr 23 21:42:18 Sonar_Gal yeah
Apr 23 21:42:30 EvilBob fedoraForum...I just don't have the time, this is now a task in need of an owner
Apr 23 21:42:37 Sonar_Guy That is a typo I moved it to 1 September!!
Apr 23 21:43:16 Sonar_Guy Actually hold on a sec, I will make it make more sense
Apr 23 21:43:44 EvilBob I don't use the forum, I am not real sure why I signed up for it
Apr 23 21:44:39 Sonar_Gal and of course it's meeting night and no mr. june to be seen
Apr 23 21:44:47 EvilBob heh
Apr 23 21:45:23 Sonar_Guy Ok refresh now.
Apr 23 21:46:08 EvilBob take my name off it please or close it
Apr 23 21:46:16 EvilBob I don't have time
Apr 23 21:46:33 EvilBob someone who uses the forum would be better
Apr 23 21:46:59 Southern_Gentlem advertise it on the forums
Apr 23 21:47:32 Sonar_Guy fedorared would be perfect!!
Apr 23 21:48:06 EvilBob Ok moving on
Apr 23 21:48:14 EvilBob times wasting
Apr 23 21:48:16 Sonar_Gal Generarte a pygtk script to automate many of our "post-install solutions, so as to automate the "new user" setup process
Apr 23 21:48:36 Sonar_Gal that is gja's yours and foolish's
Apr 23 21:48:40 EvilBob Was a great idea that died
Apr 23 21:48:51 EvilBob closed or something
Apr 23 21:48:55 EvilBob next
Apr 23 21:49:18 Sonar_Gal Generate a post about how to install 32bit firefox on 64bit system
Apr 23 21:49:31 Southern_Gentlem completed by dameastro close it
Apr 23 21:49:32 EvilBob Closed Complete
Apr 23 21:49:37 EvilBob Move it
Apr 23 21:49:50 Questor You missed #4
Apr 23 21:49:57 Sonar_Gal no I skipped the one completed by dameastro
Apr 23 21:50:04 Sonar_Guy lol
Apr 23 21:50:23 Sonar_Gal if it's a completed task no use talking about it
Apr 23 21:50:24 Questor #6?
Apr 23 21:50:35 Southern_Gentlem #5
Apr 23 21:50:37 EvilBob didnt he do #5 also?
Apr 23 21:50:43 Sonar_Gal Generate a post about how to install 32bit firefox on 64bit system
Apr 23 21:50:57 EvilBob right #5
Apr 23 21:50:58 Sonar_Gal no Bob he didn't not that is known anyway
Apr 23 21:51:03 EvilBob OK
Apr 23 21:51:05 EvilBob sorryu
Apr 23 21:51:22 Southern_Gentlem i thought scott had
Apr 23 21:51:26 Southern_Gentlem sorry
Apr 23 21:51:27 EvilBob I am just getitng used to my 64bit system here so....
Apr 23 21:51:27 Sonar_Guy Nope not yet.
Apr 23 21:51:53 Sonar_Guy Pending
Apr 23 21:51:56 Sonar_Guy Assignment
Apr 23 21:51:58 Sonar_Gal ok
Apr 23 21:51:59 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: can you take it?
Apr 23 21:52:12 Questor #5 is then assigned to daMaestro?
Apr 23 21:52:13 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: or we can do it together?
Apr 23 21:52:26 Questor Oh, I thought daMaestro was doing that one, scuse me.
Apr 23 21:52:38 Sonar_Guy Not yet, I still need to migrate back to x86_64 still, need a week or so to do that.
Apr 23 21:52:44 Southern_Gentlem i will keep watching #fedora and someone will say something about how to do it and i will ask them to do a write up on it
Apr 23 21:52:54 EvilBob Southern_Gentlem: +1
Apr 23 21:53:00 Sonar_Guy +1
Apr 23 21:53:07 Sonar_Gal ok next task
Apr 23 21:53:10 Sonar_Gal Discuss adding metadata and the liscense agreement to each post. Need a standard format for the metadata to make it easy for users and reviewers to do this. Also need to discuss adding metadata to all the posts. Discuss at the next meeting.
Apr 23 21:53:19 Southern_Gentlem i asked someone today to write a dovecot writeup
Apr 23 21:53:45 EvilBob Sonar_Gal: IMO this i up to our editor
Apr 23 21:54:05 Sonar_Guy rjune? Guess I should assign it to him then.
Apr 23 21:54:05 EvilBob he should be checking posts to be sure this info has been added
Apr 23 21:54:08 Sonar_Gal hehe ok I will put my foot up his arse this week to get it going
Apr 23 21:54:31 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: well we either need him to do these things or "butt out"
Apr 23 21:54:41 Sonar_Gal EvilBob, can we bump that out to Sept 1st
Apr 23 21:54:55 EvilBob Sonar_Gal: No
Apr 23 21:55:14 EvilBob Sonar_Gal: it should be done as part of the proofing process
Apr 23 21:55:15 Sonar_Gal ok
Apr 23 21:55:24 EvilBob so it would be an ongoing task
Apr 23 21:55:36 Sonar_Gal next Create RESPIN ISOs of FC5 to include all updates to the Core OS every 30 days
Apr 23 21:55:47 EvilBob we need to get a "submition process going"
Apr 23 21:55:51 EvilBob Hold on
Apr 23 21:55:53 Sonar_Guy Southern_Gentlem: is june 1 too soon of a deadline?
Apr 23 21:56:03 EvilBob back up
Apr 23 21:56:05 * Southern_Gentlem points at bob
Apr 23 21:56:19 Sonar_Guy Ok Bob?
Apr 23 21:56:19 Sonar_Gal hehe
Apr 23 21:56:32 EvilBob we need an Editor-In-Chief
Apr 23 21:56:46 Sonar_Guy I thought it was filled by rjune?
Apr 23 21:56:51 Sonar_Gal EvilBob, that was supposed to be rju
Apr 23 21:56:59 EvilBob someone that will go over the new posts and edited posts for spelling and gramar erros
Apr 23 21:57:09 EvilBob Sonar_Gal: right
Apr 23 21:57:11 EvilBob I know
Apr 23 21:57:13 EvilBob but
Apr 23 21:57:18 EvilBob we need an Editor-In-Chief
Apr 23 21:57:29 EvilBob someone that WILL go over the new posts and edited posts for spelling and gramar erros
Apr 23 21:57:43 Sonar_Guy Questor do you have time for something like that?
Apr 23 21:58:00 * Southern_Gentlem nominates our chairperson
Apr 23 21:58:00 EvilBob pinning the title on Mr. June and and to not have him do it is pointless
Apr 23 21:58:26 EvilBob SO I guess my question is, is he doing it?
Apr 23 21:58:31 * Sonar_Gal gets the frying pan out for Southern_Gentlem
Apr 23 21:58:42 EvilBob the answer is not that I know of
Apr 23 21:58:44 Sonar_Gal EvilBob, rjune has done nothing
Apr 23 21:58:48 Questor I wonder... I have gotten behind in doing Fedora Legacy stuff. I can go in and every once in awhile correct spelling and such... I did so to a title of one of your articles today, Sonar_Guy...
Apr 23 21:59:06 EvilBob so we need someone that will
Apr 23 21:59:29 Sonar_Guy Southern_Gentlem we need sombody that can review the data for content/technical correctness preferably familiar with the workings of fedora.
Apr 23 21:59:31 Questor Does this need to be assigned to a single person, or can it be a team proposition?
Apr 23 21:59:32 EvilBob Questor: if we sent you a list of new posts each week would that be a way you could manage it?
Apr 23 22:00:19 Questor um
Apr 23 22:00:26 EvilBob Questor: we can even get you a machine that will run FC4 and FC5 in a dual boot if you want to do the technical part also
Apr 23 22:00:30 Sonar_Guy CyberSpy ping
Apr 23 22:00:34 Southern_Gentlem i am willing to help on a team aspect
Apr 23 22:01:15 Questor Evilbob: That would help, though time I invest here is time I *don't* invest in the Legacy project....
Apr 23 22:01:17 EvilBob OK lets do this, first, can we get everyone to email Sonar_Gal with your email address that we can contact you at
Apr 23 22:01:19 Sonar_Guy Questor: I do not want you to feel obligated to have to do this with everything on your plate with Legacy!!
Apr 23 22:01:54 EvilBob these will also be the addresses used for the mailing list population to start
Apr 23 22:02:05 EvilBob Questor: right i understand that
Apr 23 22:02:09 Sonar_Gal my email is sonar_gal at yahoo.com
Apr 23 22:02:38 Questor I can give it a try.
Apr 23 22:02:48 EvilBob this way we atleast have a wya other than IRC to ping our 'staff" for help on an issue
Apr 23 22:03:03 Sonar_Gal that is also my yahoo im account
Apr 23 22:03:45 EvilBob If you need help with something email Sonar_Gal and se will then send out a BCC to everyone as a call for help? sound good?
Apr 23 22:04:28 Sonar_Guy EvilBob: what would help is an automatic e-mail every time sombody submitted a post.
Apr 23 22:04:48 Sonar_Guy I do not know if there is an easy way to do that though.
Apr 23 22:04:49 EvilBob We will also send out an email once a week with "new posts" that need review and proofing
Apr 23 22:04:55 Questor Sounds good, EvilBob.
Apr 23 22:04:57 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: there should be
Apr 23 22:05:09 Questor Surely plone is advanced enough to do such a thing.
Apr 23 22:05:11 EvilBob that way we can all do it
Apr 23 22:05:27 EvilBob and it is not on any one persons shoulders
Apr 23 22:05:55 EvilBob can we add a task here?
Apr 23 22:06:03 Sonar_Guy If we could get the site to save the submitals till wednesday morning and cover them in the evening brainstorm session it would make it easy.
Apr 23 22:06:09 Southern_Gentlem i think a email should go out to all of us to review a post before it is published
Apr 23 22:06:24 EvilBob Southern_Gentlem: that is what I am thinking
Apr 23 22:06:43 EvilBob we need a submit process laid out
Apr 23 22:06:50 Sonar_Guy EvilBob: give me a sec, I will add on to the existing task
Apr 23 22:06:59 Questor Maybe a list of those who are interested to get such "post notification emails" could be made ...
Apr 23 22:07:24 EvilBob Questor: exactly part of the mailing list idea
Apr 23 22:07:33 EvilBob Questor: "editorial team"
Apr 23 22:07:41 Questor Editable by all who are on the list. :)
Apr 23 22:07:41 EvilBob or somehting like thay
Apr 23 22:07:43 EvilBob that
Apr 23 22:08:09 EvilBob everyone can check off then we publish
Apr 23 22:08:10 Questor Sorta like FedoraProject wiki's "editor" list. :)
Apr 23 22:08:15 EvilBob yup
Apr 23 22:08:47 Questor EvilBob, if I notice a mis-spelling in an article you wrote, may I go in and correct it?
Apr 23 22:08:53 Sonar_Guy Discuss adding metadata and the liscense agreement to each post. Need a standard format for the metadata to make it easy for users and reviewers to do this. Generate a submission process that would allow for the site to e-mail the members of the Content Team when a new post is submitted for review.
Apr 23 22:08:57 Sonar_Gal Questor, yes you can
Apr 23 22:08:59 EvilBob I need to make time to learn more about plone, I wish ilived near DC so i could go to that plone class
Apr 23 22:09:03 Sonar_Guy That is how task 4 reads now.
Apr 23 22:09:07 EvilBob Questor: Please do
Apr 23 22:09:13 Questor You got my email about that, EvilBob?
Apr 23 22:09:30 EvilBob Questor: I was also emailed by Paul about it
Apr 23 22:09:36 Sonar_Guy Questor: you have manager access so if you see a change that needs to be made make it!!
Apr 23 22:10:01 Questor I knew you all had something up your sleeve when you converted my account to manager access! ;-)
Apr 23 22:10:03 Southern_Gentlem thats what else we need to discuss but we need dameatro
Apr 23 22:10:07 EvilBob Questor: fix the mis-speling of license that Sonar_Guy makes also
Apr 23 22:10:19 Sonar_Gal hehe
Apr 23 22:10:27 Sonar_Guy Yup, I can not spell to save my lyfe!!
Apr 23 22:10:50 Southern_Gentlem questor i caught a mispelling bob made on the admins list
Apr 23 22:10:54 EvilBob Questor: I dropped out of High School, english was my worst subject
Apr 23 22:11:11 Sonar_Guy I have an excuse I am dyslesic.
Apr 23 22:11:13 Questor EvilBob, that's English. :)
Apr 23 22:11:26 * Questor ducks
Apr 23 22:12:00 EvilBob Questor: the only way I can spell as well as I do is a friend used to send me PM corrections in IRC
Apr 23 22:12:12 Questor I sent an email to daMaestro through his "feedback form" in plone about the Plone conference. Will he receive it?
Apr 23 22:12:19 EvilBob Questor: EVERY time I mis-spelled a word
Apr 23 22:12:56 EvilBob Questor: I think so
Apr 23 22:13:27 Sonar_Guy I have aspell plugin for firefox but it will not work with the site.
Apr 23 22:13:51 Southern_Gentlem Sonar_Guy, cut and pasteing in to OO works wonders
Apr 23 22:14:11 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: you should document your process of cleaning up the markup and add in a spell check
Apr 23 22:14:37 EvilBob Just an idea
Apr 23 22:14:53 Sonar_Guy Hmm, I did not think of that. I think bluefish has a spell checker. Tidy then Spellcheck, Not a bad Idea.
Apr 23 22:14:56 EvilBob that would help us a lot if we all used the same process
Apr 23 22:15:15 Questor <EvilBob> we need to get a "submition process going"
Apr 23 22:15:22 Questor That's "submission" :)
Apr 23 22:15:33 Sonar_Guy Let me see what I can do, I think it can even be scripted out.
Apr 23 22:15:40 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: hell make some bluefish templates for our posts
Apr 23 22:16:00 Sonar_Guy Your templates are fine, we just need people to use them.
Apr 23 22:16:01 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: download the post templates and go crazy
Apr 23 22:16:33 Sonar_Guy Ok, will do. Let me see If I can get that done tomorrow while I am bored at work.
Apr 23 22:16:43 EvilBob part of the SUBMISSION process will help us make sure the templates are used
Apr 23 22:16:45 Sonar_Gal lol
Apr 23 22:16:47 Questor :)
Apr 23 22:17:00 Questor Templates. What templates?
Apr 23 22:17:14 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: send Questor a link
Apr 23 22:17:18 Sonar_Guy http://fedoraunity.org/posting-templates
Apr 23 22:17:35 Questor Thnx.
Apr 23 22:17:35 EvilBob fedorasearch.org machine one has been installed
Apr 23 22:17:44 Sonar_Gal cool
Apr 23 22:17:55 EvilBob I am going to clone it for the indexing machine
Apr 23 22:17:58 Sonar_Guy Cool, guess I need to put that in the notes.
Apr 23 22:18:38 EvilBob the IP space has been allocated, the RAM is now in the server available for DaMaestro to do his thing
Apr 23 22:18:47 Southern_Gentlem i am a manger how come i dont have right to get the template
Apr 23 22:18:52 Sonar_Guy What is the deadline for the move of the search engine, We do not currently have it on the task list.
Apr 23 22:18:54 Sonar_Gal well priority 1 list is complete
Apr 23 22:18:54 EvilBob I will be setitng up DNS post meeting
Apr 23 22:19:15 EvilBob new Priority 1 additions before we move to Pri 2?
Apr 23 22:19:29 Sonar_Guy Southern_Gentlem: no clue try now.
Apr 23 22:19:43 EvilBob FedoraSearch.org ONline by next sunday Priority 1
Apr 23 22:19:58 Sonar_Guy Top pri 1
Apr 23 22:20:13 Southern_Gentlem which one are we using single or multple?
Apr 23 22:20:16 * rjune (n=rjune@oh-67-76-200-198.sta.sprint-hsd.net) has joined #fedora-unity
Apr 23 22:20:29 EvilBob also set up pam_LDAP for shared users on all our public facing systems
Apr 23 22:20:41 Questor Welcome, rjune.
Apr 23 22:20:51 EvilBob fo those of us that want/need access to those systems
Apr 23 22:20:59 Sonar_Guy Southern_Gentlem: depends on the post, if it applicable to all versions single, it the steps are different for the version use the multi.
Apr 23 22:21:10 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: make that #2 in Priority 1
Apr 23 22:21:15 Sonar_Guy ok
Apr 23 22:21:37 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: set assigned to Me and Jonathan
Apr 23 22:21:51 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: for both
Apr 23 22:22:12 EvilBob the PPC machine is also ready
Apr 23 22:22:17 rjune Questor: sup
Apr 23 22:22:27 Southern_Gentlem rjune about time
Apr 23 22:22:35 EvilBob again waiting for pam_auth_ldap or whatever
Apr 23 22:22:55 Sonar_Guy EvilBob: Should I leave it Server Team.
Apr 23 22:23:13 EvilBob gobby is ready to become "bobthebuilder" also needs pam_auth_ldap
Apr 23 22:23:30 EvilBob the mirrors are complete updated twice daily
Apr 23 22:23:41 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: sure that is fine
Apr 23 22:24:18 Sonar_Gal ok anything else need to be added to priority 1 list
Apr 23 22:24:29 Questor Did we complete talking about creating respin ISO's?
Apr 23 22:24:30 EvilBob just those 4 items here
Apr 23 22:24:41 Sonar_Gal ok
Apr 23 22:24:45 EvilBob Questor: that is part of bobthebuilder
Apr 23 22:24:58 Sonar_Gal priority 2 Back port our posts for older FC versions include links to Fedora Legacy in those solution items
Apr 23 22:25:05 EvilBob Questor: once we have the auth system in place we can move on that
Apr 23 22:25:15 EvilBob Sonar_Gal: CLosed, delete
Apr 23 22:25:18 Sonar_Gal ok
Apr 23 22:25:29 Sonar_Gal PRIORITY 3 TASKS:
Apr 23 22:25:38 Sonar_Gal Setup RSS/News Feed on Fedora Unity
Apr 23 22:25:50 Questor um
Apr 23 22:25:50 EvilBob Sonar_Gal: we do not have the man power and most of our posts are related to Livna right now and they do not have full legacy support IIRC
Apr 23 22:26:05 Sonar_Gal ok
Apr 23 22:26:44 EvilBob Questor: we need ot shelve this for atleast 6-9 months until we get other things going unless you want to tackle it personally
Apr 23 22:27:07 EvilBob Questor: at that time we will have FC6 on our plates and ....
Apr 23 22:27:16 Questor Plate full: No, thank you.
Apr 23 22:27:20 Sonar_Gal lol
Apr 23 22:27:58 EvilBob Questor: it is stilla priority for me personally but not something I think the group has the resoiurces for yet
Apr 23 22:28:07 Questor Now -- If I see a post that I know information about that post that relates to Legacy -- do I contact that post's author to add it, or should I just put it in?
Apr 23 22:28:37 EvilBob Questor: you are a member of the trusted few, use the multi post template and add it
Apr 23 22:28:47 EvilBob multi release
Apr 23 22:29:24 EvilBob Questor: we should have a "enabling legacy" post for FC1, FC2 and FC3
Apr 23 22:29:40 Sonar_Gal Questor, you also need to remember that when FC6 comes out all of the FC4 info will probably be handed down to legac
Apr 23 22:29:54 Questor mm
Apr 23 22:30:09 EvilBob Questor: even it they link to the info from the Legacy Wiki that is fine
Apr 23 22:30:46 EvilBob when ever we can link to the "offical" Wiki pages we should
Apr 23 22:31:08 Questor An "enabling legacy" post? I'm confused what you mean, but maybe we can talk about this later..?
Apr 23 22:31:13 EvilBob Sonar_Gal: I have another Pri 1 item
Apr 23 22:31:38 Sonar_Gal ok
Apr 23 22:31:40 EvilBob Sonar_Gal: we need to review our posts and those that can be pushed to the Wiki FAQ should be
Apr 23 22:31:59 Sonar_Guy Which Wicki FAQ?
Apr 23 22:32:12 Sonar_Guy Legacy or Fedora or Both??
Apr 23 22:32:17 EvilBob we can then retire them linking to the Wiki and let the community at large take over
Apr 23 22:32:41 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: mether started a FAQ on the wiki for fedora in general
Apr 23 22:32:57 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: if there are other FAQ areas we can use those also
Apr 23 22:33:13 Southern_Gentlem *confused*
Apr 23 22:33:23 Southern_Gentlem but move on
Apr 23 22:33:28 EvilBob we just need to be aware of the "content rules" of the FedoraProject
Apr 23 22:33:56 Sonar_Gal deadline date?
Apr 23 22:33:58 EvilBob Southern_Gentlem: our primary goal is to provide documentation to the FDP
Apr 23 22:34:05 Southern_Gentlem yes
Apr 23 22:34:05 EvilBob Sonar_Gal: on going
Apr 23 22:34:11 Sonar_Gal ok
Apr 23 22:34:38 EvilBob Southern_Gentlem: so those of us who are member of FDP need to make sure we do that
Apr 23 22:35:40 EvilBob Southern_Gentlem: so in general those of you who are not by submitting content to FedoraUnity.org give us that are the right to repost on the formal site
Apr 23 22:36:06 EvilBob that is why we are using the OPL without options
Apr 23 22:36:24 EvilBob our content is thier content if applicable
Apr 23 22:36:40 EvilBob does that help?
Apr 23 22:36:44 Southern_Gentlem yes
Apr 23 22:36:47 EvilBob K
Apr 23 22:36:56 Questor I thought I read a disclaimer on one or more of the fu.org sites -- "by contributing here, you are agreeing that your contribution is covered by OPL.. yada yada"
Apr 23 22:37:10 EvilBob Questor: yes that is the case
Apr 23 22:37:36 EvilBob we still have some old FDL cruft that needs to be cleaned up
Apr 23 22:37:58 EvilBob or what ever our old lIcense was
Apr 23 22:38:21 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: Pri 1 also
Apr 23 22:38:26 Questor Make that a task item, EvilBob ?
Apr 23 22:38:31 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: clean up all the old FDL cruft
Apr 23 22:38:47 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: #3 on the list IMO
Apr 23 22:38:49 Sonar_Guy Covered under Item 5
Apr 23 22:39:53 Questor What's covered under Item 5?
Apr 23 22:40:13 EvilBob promote to #3 then
Apr 23 22:40:14 Sonar_Gal ok can we move on
Apr 23 22:40:23 Sonar_Guy Discuss adding metadata and Updating liscense agreement on each post and on all Fedora Unity Websites. Need a standard format for the metadata to make it easy for users and reviewers to do this. Generate a submission process that would allow for the site to e-mail the members of the Content Team when a new post is submitted for review.
Apr 23 22:40:36 EvilBob Sonar_Gal: yes I thinnk we should after a short review
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Apr 23 22:40:51 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: license
Apr 23 22:41:26 Sonar_Guy Updating liscense agreement on each post and on all Fedora Unity Websites.
Apr 23 22:41:31 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: license
Apr 23 22:41:41 EvilBob hehehe
Apr 23 22:41:50 >chanserv< op #fedora-unity
Apr 23 22:41:50 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to Sonar_Guy
Apr 23 22:41:55 * Sonar_Guy sets ban on *!*n=evilbob@*fedora/BobJensen
Apr 23 22:41:58 * Sonar_Guy has kicked EvilBob from #Fedora-Unity (bye)
Apr 23 22:41:59 Questor Doh. Someone say "refresh" when task list is changed? :)
Apr 23 22:42:11 * Sonar_Guy removes ban on *!*n=evilbob@*fedora/BobJensen
Apr 23 22:42:12 Questor Geez.
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Apr 23 22:42:23 * Sonar_Guy removes channel operator status from Sonar_Guy
Apr 23 22:42:25 Sonar_Guy lol
Apr 23 22:42:29 EvilBob No banning
Apr 23 22:42:37 Sonar_Guy hehe
Apr 23 22:42:40 Southern_Gentlem move on
Apr 23 22:42:56 Sonar_Gal ok next
Apr 23 22:42:59 Sonar_Gal PRIORITY 3 TASKS:
Apr 23 22:43:08 Sonar_Gal Setup RSS/News Feed on Fedora Unity
Apr 23 22:43:12 Southern_Gentlem #6 next
Apr 23 22:43:34 Sonar_Gal ASSIGNED: Scott Glaser, Bob Jensen, Ignacio Vazquez
Apr 23 22:43:57 Sonar_Gal Southern_Gentlem, you refreshed I am on the old list I do not refresh til after the meeting
Apr 23 22:44:02 EvilBob Southern_Gentlem: we pushed on that, we need to get shared auth set up for the build boxes
Apr 23 22:44:24 EvilBob Southern_Gentlem: do youhave a general update?
Apr 23 22:44:37 Sonar_Gal ok task at hand!!!!!!
Apr 23 22:45:02 EvilBob Sonar_Gal: youlet us have an open meeting
Apr 23 22:45:04 Southern_Gentlem other han you told me to hold on that
Apr 23 22:45:14 EvilBob Sonar_Gal: we can't help it if we get out of control
Apr 23 22:45:23 Sonar_Gal i can close the floor evil one
Apr 23 22:45:27 EvilBob LOL
Apr 23 22:45:39 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to Sonar_Gal
Apr 23 22:46:02 EvilBob Sonar_Gal: can we give Southern_Gentlem a little bit to talk about this task please?
Apr 23 22:46:07 Sonar_Guy Yup
Apr 23 22:46:08 Sonar_Gal ok
Apr 23 22:46:15 Sonar_Guy What is a good date for you Southern_Gentlem
Apr 23 22:46:21 EvilBob Southern_Gentlem: You have the floor and we are all ears
Apr 23 22:47:04 Southern_Gentlem hopefully this week me and bob can discuss the yum script he gave me and i can retry again
Apr 23 22:47:36 Sonar_Guy Do you need more time on the deadline?
Apr 23 22:47:41 Southern_Gentlem i want to have a first run for us to test hopefully by may 1st
Apr 23 22:47:48 Sonar_Guy ok
Apr 23 22:47:53 Southern_Gentlem may15th at the latest
Apr 23 22:48:00 Sonar_Guy With a final release by 1 June?
Apr 23 22:48:01 EvilBob Southern_Gentlem: can we make that by next sunday?
Apr 23 22:48:24 EvilBob Southern_Gentlem: so then we have somethign to report at the meeting?
Apr 23 22:48:28 Southern_Gentlem that way when we start doing it on the server we can see what the problems are
Apr 23 22:49:09 Southern_Gentlem may 15th will have to be the cutoff for the roolup on the june 1st i think
Apr 23 22:49:27 Sonar_Guy ok
Apr 23 22:49:32 Southern_Gentlem bob depends on how work goes this week
Apr 23 22:49:46 EvilBob Southern_Gentlem: but can we do a "first run" report due the 30th of this month?
Apr 23 22:49:56 Southern_Gentlem hopefully
Apr 23 22:49:57 Sonar_Guy So I will leave the date 1 June then.
Apr 23 22:50:08 EvilBob Southern_Gentlem: first server run do by the 15th
Apr 23 22:50:25 Sonar_Guy You need t o establish a cutoff date for the rsync updates also.
Apr 23 22:50:30 EvilBob public release run by June 1
Apr 23 22:50:44 Southern_Gentlem i think as we get used to doing the rollups we can make the time closer (instead of 2 weeks)
Apr 23 22:50:58 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: two weeks at this time
Apr 23 22:51:04 Sonar_Guy ok
Apr 23 22:51:08 Questor We are talking about re-spun FC5 ISO's?
Apr 23 22:51:08 EvilBob Sonar_Guy: hope we can get it down to 1
Apr 23 22:51:13 EvilBob Questor: Yup
Apr 23 22:51:23 EvilBob Questor: and others later
Apr 23 22:51:34 Questor Does that include being able to put CD #1 in a blank computer and install FC5 from it?
Apr 23 22:51:41 Sonar_Guy yup
Apr 23 22:51:45 Southern_Gentlem nope
Apr 23 22:51:57 EvilBob Questor: FC5 for the first few months, then updated FC4 and older as the process gets perfected
Apr 23 22:51:59 Southern_Gentlem at the moment dvd
Apr 23 22:52:08 Sonar_Guy Sorry DVD. hehe
Apr 23 22:52:14 Questor Does that include being able to put DVD #1 in a blank computer and install FC5 from it?
Apr 23 22:52:21 EvilBob Questor: yup
Apr 23 22:52:24 EvilBob updated ISOs
Apr 23 22:52:36 Southern_Gentlem but after we get it going i would be use to generate cd isos as well
Apr 23 22:52:52 Questor That means playing with the installer -- anaconda, right?
Apr 23 22:53:01 Southern_Gentlem questor nope
Apr 23 22:53:02 EvilBob Questor: my long term goal is to have "FC2 Legacy" ISOs for example
Apr 23 22:53:44 Questor I'm getting two different answers to my questions.
Apr 23 22:53:50 Questor Southern_Gentlem: Nope what?
Apr 23 22:53:53 Southern_Gentlem questor at this point i dont see why we need to play with anaconda
Apr 23 22:54:18 EvilBob Questor: you do not have to hack anaconda to do this, just the package list
Apr 23 22:54:26 Questor Okay. So these will be package DVD/CD's, not *install* DVD's/CD's.
Apr 23 22:54:41 EvilBob Questor: they will be install able
Apr 23 22:54:49 EvilBob installable
Apr 23 22:54:57 Questor I thought you needed to do stuff with Anaconda to create an installable DVD/CD.
Apr 23 22:55:02 Southern_Gentlem installable with the new updated rpms
Apr 23 22:55:18 Questor I may be thinking of FC1's version of Anaconda, however...
Apr 23 22:55:35 EvilBob Push for post meeting discussion on the tech part of this task
Apr 23 22:55:43 Sonar_Guy +
Apr 23 22:55:45 Sonar_Guy +1
Apr 23 22:55:47 Questor Exactly... I was going to suggest just that. +1
Apr 23 22:56:02 Sonar_Gal +1
Apr 23 22:56:17 EvilBob Southern_Gentlem: that OK with you?
Apr 23 22:56:27 Southern_Gentlem ok but i need to go to bed soon
Apr 23 22:56:34 Sonar_Gal Are we ready to move on?
Apr 23 22:56:38 Southern_Gentlem +1
Apr 23 22:56:43 EvilBob lets make it quick
Apr 23 22:56:44 Sonar_Guy +1
Apr 23 22:56:52 Sonar_Gal PRIORITY 3 TASKS:
Apr 23 22:57:04 Sonar_Gal # Setup RSS/News Feed on Fedora Unity
Apr 23 22:57:05 Sonar_Gal ASSIGNED: Scott Glaser, Bob Jensen, Ignacio Vazquez
Apr 23 22:57:07 EvilBob damn meeting has been 2 hours already
Apr 23 22:57:23 EvilBob Lets shoot this out to June 1
Apr 23 22:57:27 Sonar_Gal ok
Apr 23 22:57:30 EvilBob Move on
Apr 23 22:57:42 Sonar_Guy DATE DUE: On-Going
Apr 23 22:57:52 EvilBob that works
Apr 23 22:57:54 Sonar_Gal priority 3 are all on going
Apr 23 22:57:55 EvilBob next
Apr 23 22:58:04 Sonar_Gal Have the project reach out to all the other sites and encourage them to assist us in our goal to bring the Fedora Community closer together
Apr 23 22:58:12 Sonar_Gal ASSIGNED: Not Assigned
Apr 23 22:58:30 EvilBob I have been reaching out to the ussers more than other sites
Apr 23 22:58:53 EvilBob once we get the search online it will help with this task IMO
Apr 23 22:58:59 Sonar_Guy Yup
Apr 23 22:59:05 Sonar_Gal +1
Apr 23 22:59:09 EvilBob anyone else have an opinion?
Apr 23 22:59:23 EvilBob I have one tidbit
Apr 23 22:59:26 Southern_Gentlem +1
Apr 23 22:59:41 Southern_Gentlem !
Apr 23 22:59:58 Southern_Gentlem i think we need to advertise FFF more
Apr 23 23:00:00 EvilBob Stickster suggest we get our personal blogs/spaces going to help bring attention to the project
Apr 23 23:00:28 EvilBob this should bring attention to FFF at the same time as we post updates about it
Apr 23 23:00:37 Sonar_Gal ok last one for the night ok
Apr 23 23:00:39 Questor FFF?
Apr 23 23:00:49 Sonar_Guy Fedora, Friends and Fun get together in Virginia Beach VA June 23-30 2006.
Apr 23 23:00:54 EvilBob can we get an FFF section added to FedoraUNity.org
Apr 23 23:01:13 EvilBob so we can get an "offical page" going for it?
Apr 23 23:01:25 EvilBob done
Apr 23 23:01:40 Sonar_Guy Southern_Gentlem: You want to post your page on FU.O
Apr 23 23:01:49 Southern_Gentlem also we nned to start a tenative schedule for the first weekend i think
Apr 23 23:02:03 Southern_Gentlem Sonar_Guy, we can
Apr 23 23:02:28 EvilBob Southern_Gentlem: I agree, we ned to get an <spellcheck>itnerary</spellcheck> laid out
Apr 23 23:02:34 Southern_Gentlem i will add meet at campground at 4pm as tentative
Apr 23 23:02:41 Sonar_Gal ok
Apr 23 23:03:01 Sonar_Guy Ok, Item 3 is mine. So far I have tried 3 modules the first 2 will not even run on our version of Zope/Plone. The Last is severly lacking. Research is still on-going.
Apr 23 23:03:17 EvilBob Sonar_Gal: lets take a look at what we want to schedule for the week sometime tomorrow
Apr 23 23:03:37 Sonar_Gal EvilBob, that's fine by me
Apr 23 23:03:53 EvilBob Sonar_Gal: then we can work on actual days and such
Apr 23 23:04:17 EvilBob Ok close it up
Apr 23 23:04:18 Sonar_Gal correct
Apr 23 23:04:21 EvilBob thanks for coming
Apr 23 23:04:56 * Sonar_Gal now calls this meeting to a close. Thanks for participating in our weekly Unity meeting