Meeting Minutes for 24 September 2006

Sep 24 19:03:23 *    Sonar_Gal now calls this meeting to order
Sep 24 19:03:41 KC0WYC    BobJensen
Sep 24 19:03:48 *    ChanServ gives channel operator status to Sonar_Gal
Sep 24 19:04:22 *    KC0WYC is now known as Bob-Laptop
Sep 24 19:04:33 Sonar_Gal    ok the task list is on hold for a few.  The 1st thing we need to discuss tonight is getting the donations so we can get the processor we need to the build server.
Sep 24 19:05:31 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:05:43 Sonar_Gal    If you are donating I can take paypal or send me a check or moneyorder.  If you need info please PM me and I will give the info needed.  So far we have less than 1/2 of what is needed.
Sep 24 19:05:48 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:06:16 Bob-Laptop    this is important for a lot of things that we want to do, it will make the overall development process a lot easier
Sep 24 19:06:43 Bob-Laptop    I am contributing about $800 worth of hardware for this
Sep 24 19:07:12 Bob-Laptop    It was suggested that I menton that by a third party that watches our channel
Sep 24 19:07:56 Bob-Laptop    I just ask that if you can help out do so even if you don't do the development work thta some of us do
Sep 24 19:08:18 Bob-Laptop    NO one is expected to contribute anything
Sep 24 19:08:27 Bob-Laptop    just if you can
Sep 24 19:08:31 Bob-Laptop    EOM
Sep 24 19:08:37 Sonar_Guy    +1
Sep 24 19:08:41 Sonar_Gal    +1
Sep 24 19:08:58 corwyn    +1
Sep 24 19:09:10 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:09:16 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:09:35 Bob-Laptop    even if you know someone that is not in our group that might be willing and able to help ask them
Sep 24 19:09:44 Bob-Laptop    EOM
Sep 24 19:10:10 autopsy    !
Sep 24 19:10:20 *    Sonar_Gal gives autopsy the floor.
Sep 24 19:10:51 autopsy    We still need to work on gathering the articles of incorporation and filing the ceritifcate of existance requests and the Federal 1023 forms.
Sep 24 19:10:53 autopsy    EOF.
Sep 24 19:11:06 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:11:12 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:11:17 Bob-Laptop    that is the next item...EOF
Sep 24 19:11:50 Sonar_Gal    ok on to the task list
Sep 24 19:11:58 Sonar_Gal    http://fedoraunity.org/meeting-information/task-list/
Sep 24 19:12:10 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:12:16 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:12:20 Bob-Laptop    we have another item we need funds for
Sep 24 19:12:28 Bob-Laptop    the domain name renewals
Sep 24 19:12:44 Bob-Laptop    I will post to the lists about tha
Sep 24 19:12:46 Sonar_Gal    yeah and the money we need to get Item 1 started also
Sep 24 19:12:49 Bob-Laptop    EOF
Sep 24 19:13:10 Sonar_Gal    We are going to need at least 500-600 total in the next month to get Unity going
Sep 24 19:13:35 Bob-Laptop    s/get/keep
Sep 24 19:13:37 autopsy    !
Sep 24 19:14:03 Sonar_Gal    for domains, the processor and the set up of incorp and non-profit stuff
Sep 24 19:14:07 *    Sonar_Gal gives autopsy the floor.
Sep 24 19:15:03 autopsy    Nevermind, I was assuming you meant $500 dollars just for the incorporation and filing fees. I will be filing here in Alabama which will cost $25 to teh secretary of state and $20 to the probate judge.
Sep 24 19:15:16 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:15:36 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:15:50 autopsy    This will be a quick process here as Alabama is ridden with churches which are also non-profit and they do the work quickly. Let's get the articles of incorporation together please, let's start that sometimes soon.
Sep 24 19:15:51 autopsy    EOF.
Sep 24 19:16:50 Bob-Laptop    Quick time out
Sep 24 19:16:56 Bob-Laptop    we are whispering
Sep 24 19:16:58 Bob-Laptop    LOL
Sep 24 19:17:27 Sonar_Gal    lol
Sep 24 19:19:16 Bob-Laptop    OK
Sep 24 19:19:26 Bob-Laptop    We just had to get out ducks in a row
Sep 24 19:19:34 Sonar_Gal    correct
Sep 24 19:19:54 Sonar_Gal    ok lets get the tasklist going
Sep 24 19:19:58 Sonar_Gal    1. # Setup Non-Profit Organization
Sep 24 19:19:59 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-OCT-08
Sep 24 19:19:59 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Unity-Leaders
Sep 24 19:19:59 Sonar_Gal              * NOTES: Setup Non-Profit organization, Autopsy is looking into setting up the paperwork. Board of directors to be Nominated. Meeting rescheduled to 2006-Sep-14 for discussing this item. Documents to be posted to fedoraunity.org site.
Sep 24 19:20:17 autopsy    !
Sep 24 19:20:22 *    Sonar_Gal gives autopsy the floor.
Sep 24 19:20:44 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:21:10 autopsy    Please set a meeting date for this item at a time Scott will be back, the nominations need to occur them we can move on to filing and filling out the paperwork, which I'll do here as long as we get the board directors cooperating and filling things out..
Sep 24 19:21:11 autopsy    EOF.
Sep 24 19:21:17 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:21:44 corwyn    !
Sep 24 19:21:50 Bob-Laptop    we would like to get this going, the Sonars and I agree that we will file in AL  promoting autopsy to the board, we will work out the exact titles and so on this week
Sep 24 19:22:34 Bob-Laptop    It is also my opinion that we would like to see corwyn and nman on the board with us
Sep 24 19:23:11 Sonar_Gal    that will make 7 on the board?
Sep 24 19:23:26 Bob-Laptop    so the board would consist of autopsy, daMaestro, Sonar_Gal, Sonar_Guy, nman64_away, corwyn and my]self
Sep 24 19:23:31 Bob-Laptop    yes 7
Sep 24 19:23:34 Sonar_Gal    ok
Sep 24 19:24:04 Bob-Laptop    As i said we will have to work out the details later
Sep 24 19:24:32 Bob-Laptop    all of the people named are people I trust and think will be an asset to the project
Sep 24 19:24:38 Bob-Laptop    EOF
Sep 24 19:24:47 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Sep 24 19:25:02 corwyn    date already set to 08 Oct, that is when Scott's due back
Sep 24 19:25:05 corwyn    eof
Sep 24 19:25:21 Bob-Laptop    +1
Sep 24 19:25:23 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:25:25 Sonar_Gal    +1
Sep 24 19:25:29 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:25:38 Sonar_Guy    +1
Sep 24 19:25:38 Bob-Laptop    I think we can get a lot of ground work done in that time
Sep 24 19:25:44 Bob-Laptop    EOF
Sep 24 19:25:45 corwyn    +1
Sep 24 19:25:49 Sonar_Gal    +1
Sep 24 19:25:58 corwyn    !
Sep 24 19:25:59 Sonar_Guy    +1
Sep 24 19:26:03 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Sep 24 19:26:32 corwyn    autopsy, please get whatever paperwork started and prepared for filing, fill in what can be done, the rest we'll finish as we're able.
Sep 24 19:26:34 corwyn    eof
Sep 24 19:26:46 Sonar_Guy    +1
Sep 24 19:26:49 Bob-Laptop    corwyn: +1
Sep 24 19:26:53 Sonar_Gal    +1
Sep 24 19:26:55 autopsy    +1
Sep 24 19:27:04 corwyn    +1
Sep 24 19:27:11 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:27:21 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:27:30 Bob-Laptop    anything else on this topic for tonight or any questions?
Sep 24 19:27:33 Bob-Laptop    EOF
Sep 24 19:27:54 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:27:56 Bob-Laptop    oops
Sep 24 19:27:58 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:28:01 Sonar_Gal    lol
Sep 24 19:28:06 Bob-Laptop    I will take it
Sep 24 19:28:23 Sonar_Gal    ok
Sep 24 19:28:33 *    Sonar_Guy thinks we need to take away Bob-Laptops exclamation point!!
Sep 24 19:28:40 corwyn    lol
Sep 24 19:28:44 Bob-Laptop    the reasoning behind the names I listed are the people that have been the most envolved in our project though out our history
Sep 24 19:29:01 Bob-Laptop    they are the ones with the most time invested
Sep 24 19:29:17 corwyn    !
Sep 24 19:29:32 Bob-Laptop    some of us have had a lot of money invested and we value your time also
Sep 24 19:29:35 Bob-Laptop    EOF
Sep 24 19:29:45 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Sep 24 19:29:59 corwyn    I recommend that if anyone has any further comments on this item, do it after the task list is complete in open session. Please, let's move on.
Sep 24 19:30:00 corwyn    eof
Sep 24 19:30:38 Sonar_Gal    ok lets move on
Sep 24 19:30:43 Sonar_Gal    2. # Document our testing process to include step by step procedures for testing DVD and CD ISOs, this document will also cover all arch types i386, x86_64, and PPC. This is not going to be an easy task and was started by Jeroen van Meeuwen, a rough draft of this is to be presented at the 13 August 2006 meeting for the meeting members to review and comment on the progress.
Sep 24 19:30:43 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-SEP-09
Sep 24 19:30:43 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Testing Team Lead and Jeroen van Meeuwen
Sep 24 19:30:43 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES:  1st rough draft has been completed. Further cleanup/editting required. Bob, Jon and Jeroen are working on this. Script for testing and providing reports on testing to be included. Autopsy to write up a draft for the Live CD and Live DVD.
Sep 24 19:30:43 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:30:56 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:31:05 Bob-Laptop    I still need to corner kanarip for this
Sep 24 19:31:14 corwyn    !
Sep 24 19:31:16 Bob-Laptop    I will have to send him an email
Sep 24 19:31:26 autopsy    !
Sep 24 19:31:32 Bob-Laptop    can we put next weeks date on it please
Sep 24 19:31:35 Bob-Laptop    EOF
Sep 24 19:31:38 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Sep 24 19:31:43 corwyn    if it's possible, find out what he's got to say on this for next meeting and someone else proxy his comments then if he can't be here.
Sep 24 19:31:45 corwyn    eof
Sep 24 19:31:54 *    Sonar_Gal gives autopsy the floor.
Sep 24 19:32:14 autopsy    Open Document Format is alright for everyone right, OpenOffice.org document format?
Sep 24 19:32:16 autopsy    OEF
Sep 24 19:32:20 autopsy    EOF
Sep 24 19:32:21 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:32:23 corwyn    +1
Sep 24 19:32:28 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:32:32 Sonar_Gal    +1 autopsy
Sep 24 19:32:35 Bob-Laptop    autopsy: or work on the site
Sep 24 19:32:40 Sonar_Guy    autopsy: +1
Sep 24 19:32:49 Bob-Laptop    autopsy: that way we all can contribute
Sep 24 19:32:52 Bob-Laptop    EOF
Sep 24 19:33:00 autopsy    +1
Sep 24 19:33:15 Sonar_Gal    3. # Discuss the translating of the various Fedora Unity sites to other Languages.
Sep 24 19:33:15 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-OCT/NOV
Sep 24 19:33:15 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Edit-Team
Sep 24 19:33:15 Sonar_Gal              * NOTES: Tabled till September/October timeframe after the release of FC6.
Sep 24 19:33:26 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:33:27 Sonar_Gal    This Item is tabled til the release of FC6
Sep 24 19:33:31 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:33:50 Bob-Laptop     Tabled till September/October timeframe after the release of FC6 should read Oct/Nov
Sep 24 19:33:52 Bob-Laptop    EOF
Sep 24 19:34:05 Sonar_Gal    4. # Next update to RESPIN ISOs of FC5.
Sep 24 19:34:05 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: TBD
Sep 24 19:34:05 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Re-Spin Team
Sep 24 19:34:05 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES:
Sep 24 19:34:07 corwyn    !
Sep 24 19:34:11 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:34:14 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Sep 24 19:34:15 corwyn    still need a date for this please.
Sep 24 19:34:17 corwyn    eof
Sep 24 19:34:30 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:35:14 Bob-Laptop    I am hoping to get the CD creation fixed and tested this week, until we get that re-spins are at a stand still, we have only had one kernel update since our last release
Sep 24 19:35:44 Bob-Laptop    it is not logical to go through the work right now with out a good reason to update the images
Sep 24 19:35:59 Bob-Laptop    I am open to suggestions for this however
Sep 24 19:36:07 Sonar_Guy    +1
Sep 24 19:36:11 Sonar_Gal    +1
Sep 24 19:36:16 Sonar_Guy    !
Sep 24 19:36:22 Bob-Laptop    corwyn: as for a date I think if we say 2 weeks we should have a good reason
Sep 24 19:36:23 Sonar_Gal    same with Item 5 then correct?
Sep 24 19:36:27 Bob-Laptop    EOF
Sep 24 19:36:29 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Sep 24 19:36:32 Bob-Laptop    Sonar_Gal: yup
Sep 24 19:37:09 Sonar_Guy    Lets not re-spin just for the sake of re-spinning, lets do it when it is productive and it makes sense to re-spin.  Plus it gives us time to get other things accomplished such as PPC!!
Sep 24 19:37:10 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Sep 24 19:37:25 Bob-Laptop    Sonar_Guy: +1
Sep 24 19:37:32 Sonar_Gal    +1
Sep 24 19:37:35 autopsy    +1
Sep 24 19:37:52 corwyn    +1
Sep 24 19:37:53 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:37:54 corwyn    !
Sep 24 19:38:06 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:38:25 Bob-Laptop    I talked a little bit with Bill Nottingham about the PPC stuff this past week and he will be helping us with that
Sep 24 19:38:57 Bob-Laptop    Right now he and the rest of RE and anaconda are quite busy with FC6 and RHEL5 stuff
Sep 24 19:39:04 Sonar_Guy    ?
Sep 24 19:39:11 Bob-Laptop    but we have our foot in the door
Sep 24 19:39:19 Bob-Laptop    Sonar_Guy?
Sep 24 19:39:28 Sonar_Guy    Also what is going on with Will Woods and the automated testing scripts??
Sep 24 19:39:30 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Sep 24 19:40:01 Bob-Laptop    Sonar_Guy: I have not had a chance to talk to will this week will get it on my todo list for early in the week
Sep 24 19:40:04 Bob-Laptop    EOF
Sep 24 19:40:15 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Sep 24 19:40:16 corwyn    Set to Oct 08 tentatively, can be changed as is needed, same goes for Item 5. We can skip item 5 as Item 4 is still on hold.
Sep 24 19:40:19 corwyn    eof
Sep 24 19:40:28 Sonar_Gal    +1
Sep 24 19:40:33 Bob-Laptop    corwyn: +1
Sep 24 19:40:33 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:40:38 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Sep 24 19:40:43 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:40:44 Sonar_Guy    +1
Sep 24 19:40:50 *    corwyn runs away with the floor
Sep 24 19:40:54 Sonar_Gal    lol
Sep 24 19:40:54 corwyn    Muahahaha
Sep 24 19:41:00 corwyn    eof
Sep 24 19:41:06 Bob-Laptop    also I will talk to Max this week to see what is goign on with the help we talked to him about
Sep 24 19:41:24 Bob-Laptop    hopefully we can make that happen before our next spin
Sep 24 19:41:28 Bob-Laptop    EOF
Sep 24 19:41:49 Sonar_Gal    6. # Spin out Test release LiveCDs. Spin out RAWHIDE LiveCDs. Automate RAWHIDE spins, spin Test LiveCD every Test release. The exact details are unknown at this time, however is an item in the Task List. This will help in aiding bug-smashers and other testers that do not wish to install a Test release or RAWHIDE, since they may be broken.. of course.
Sep 24 19:41:49 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-SEP-10
Sep 24 19:41:49 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Test-Lead
Sep 24 19:41:50 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: FC5 "Live-Spin" still in development.  We have Live-Spins out int he wild, We have kadischi in rapid development so things change quickly and progress is being made. FC6T3 will be available upon release.
Sep 24 19:41:55 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:42:00 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:42:18 Bob-Laptop    I am spinning FC6T3 i386 Live-Spins now
Sep 24 19:42:27 Bob-Laptop    the CD is done the DVD is building
Sep 24 19:42:34 autopsy    !
Sep 24 19:42:42 Bob-Laptop    we can not do x86_64 with out the build server upgrade
Sep 24 19:42:49 Bob-Laptop    EOF
Sep 24 19:43:52 *    Sonar_Gal gives autopsy the floor.
Sep 24 19:44:43 autopsy    We need to work on the automated RAWHIDE spins and decide where to put them, can we build a script to do this or can I just after a mirror update is complete each week?
Sep 24 19:44:45 autopsy    EOF
Sep 24 19:44:57 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:45:02 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:45:20 Bob-Laptop    autopsy: yes that will be able to happen once we upgrade the build server
Sep 24 19:45:24 Bob-Laptop    EOF
Sep 24 19:45:39 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:45:41 *    Sonar_Gal gives Bob-Laptop the floor.
Sep 24 19:45:54 Bob-Laptop    As you all can see a lot is hanging on this build server thing
Sep 24 19:45:57 Bob-Laptop    EOF
Sep 24 19:46:18 Sonar_Gal    7. # Create back-up of the servers Unity01, Unity02, and Unity03 every sunday after the meeting. Also create a backup prior to any major configuration change.
Sep 24 19:46:18 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: On-Going
Sep 24 19:46:18 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Bob Jensen
Sep 24 19:46:18 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: Backup, Backup, Backup!!
Sep 24 19:46:24 Bob-Laptop    !
Sep 24 19:46:33 *    Sonar_Gal now opens the floor for discussion.
Sep 24 19:46:37 Bob-Laptop    we need to remove Unity02 from the list
Sep 24 19:46:49 Bob-Laptop    it is off line and has been for quite some time
Sep 24 19:46:58 corwyn    done
Sep 24 19:47:06 Sonar_Guy    What was unity02 used for?
Sep 24 19:47:06 Bob-Laptop    we have moved the processes to Unity03
Sep 24 19:47:17 Bob-Laptop    Sonar_Guy: it was part of the search system
Sep 24 19:47:24 Sonar_Guy    ah ok.
Sep 24 19:47:46 Bob-Laptop    Sonar_Guy: A little bit of "over build"
Sep 24 19:47:54 Sonar_Guy    lol
Sep 24 19:48:04 Bob-Laptop    Sonar_Guy: turned out that one machien could do the work of two
Sep 24 19:48:11 Sonar_Guy    ok
Sep 24 19:49:46 Bob-Laptop    I have nothing for the open floor other than to say thank you to everyone again
Sep 24 19:51:16 corwyn    the only thing I have to say is, Thank you Bob for the honor of the nomination, I'm not really sure what I've done to deserve it, but I won't let you or Unity down.
Sep 24 19:51:24 *    corwyn goes back to humble mode
Sep 24 19:51:37 *    corwyn moves to close the meeting
Sep 24 19:51:49 *    Bob-Laptop will second
Sep 24 19:51:59 Sonar_Guy    +1
Sep 24 19:52:15 *    Sonar_Gal now closes this weeks sunday meeting at Fedora-Unity